Sean: Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged

> On the whole, I respect you and understand that you are happy with system you have created, but there’s no need to pass speculative judgments.

Sean,
You still want be Mr. Nice Guy, even as you pass on a litany of speculative judgements about others while claiming not to. And you repteatedly pass yourself off as an authority, when you have NO CREDENTIALS established whatsoever other than your proclamations about your personal search.

Example:
>The energy created from the Healing Dao practices are largely sensory in nature. Subjectively speaking, practitioners may experience all kinds of energy, colors and “buzzing.” Point of fact, you can experience any of these things by taking drugs.

First of all, let’s not generalize about ‘Healing Dao”. You did not study any of the basics, fusion, healing love, or iron shirt with me – because I wasn’t teaching those at Big Indian. Like many students, perhaps you came into the Lesser unprepared and didn’t get it. Perhaps it appeared inconsistent to you because you didn’t have a previous five shen training consistent with my class.

Second of all, let’s not generalize YOUR experience of the first One Cloud formula onto others who have restored their health, found inner peace, and numerous other benefits. That formula is designed to harmonize post-natal chi. Your judgement is that no one is getting enlightened from it, when it is just designed to a be a foundation. It delivers to many what is promised – you simply wanted some thing different.

>My experience with Healing Dao was my experience. All of the senior instructors I’ve met and studied under were still searching for more effective methods and were very open about this with me.

Sounds exactly like David Shen and anyone interested in growing….a meaningless point. The other reality is that neidan requires deep long term committment which not all healing dao instructors were willing to put into it. Many of these instructors were exposed to David Shen, yet few chose to follow him.

>The idea that, because Kan and Li and the other formulas have been written about in various texts, proves they are authentics is just silly.

The point is not to try to prove authenticity, which can only be established by each adept that develops the skill to make them work. The point was to demonstrate how fraudulent your claim was that Mantak Chia made them up. This is not character assassination of you, Sean – it is pointing out what you said is blatantly false and is a character assassination of Chia. The more these falsities accrue, your claimed expertise fades. I recommend in the future you stick to selling what works for you.

>As you yourself told me, Chia was never actually trained in these methods; and what is taught today is basically a good guess at best.

This is another blatantly false distortion, that let me know that either your ability to listen or your memory is weak, or both. What I said is exactly what I’ve clarified previously on this forum: Chia told me he was trained experientially up through the Greater Kan & Li, and given the description on the rest. He certainly had a connection to One Cloud’s lineage, and those beings were clearly pushing his work in the West.

>David left the Healing Dao because you and Chia started teaching practices he taught you without permission; surprise.

That is pure b.s. to include me in their struggle. David’s falling out was with Mantak Chia over numerous battles they had at Tao Garden, which led to his selling his condo there.

>And after decades of practice Mantak himself has not achieved a meaningful level of achievement that would warrant the title of master in any line of teh Dao that I know.

Another judgement by Master Sean. One of many reasons why I avoid the Master Game. Chia has hundreds of grateful students that would “judge” otherwise. Even traditionally, master-student is a relationship, not an objective measurable quantity to be determined by others. A more correct statement would be to say, ‘Chia is not my master, based on what I need from a Master”.

I have my differences with Chia, but his energy is certainly very powerful when he focuses it. If anything, he is victim of his ambition to use his power to grow something worthwhile too far too fast. That stretched him thin, and led to problems. His function in building the large community you profited handsomely from is a kind of mastery you will not commonly find in China or Thailand. There are many kinds of mastery. I am personally deeply grateful to Chia and have let go my anger at what I perceive were his mistakes. It is up to each of us to shape the reality we want to grow rather than getting stuck on other’s failures.

>Perhaps there is something to the methods you teach, that’s just not my experience.

Finally a possible admission that you haven’t really studied with me enough to make the earlier judgements you passed about being “a money-making scam”. Maybe you would benefit from reading the testimonials posted before claiming to know more than the people who write them – benefits that feel just as real to them as the ones you claim to feel with a new teacher in Thailand.

The assumptions I find most questionable and naive in your postings is beliff that David Shen is going to grant you immortality, and that no one in the Healing Tao has achieved it. That exhibiting some particular abilty with chi is the proof of immortality or even enlightenment, “since we have nothing else as proof”.

What has possibly led you to believe that David Shen is immortal, or what would qualify you to make this judgement about him – or anyone else? If David hasn’t achieved immoraltiy after 20 years of hard searching, is that failure by your objective standards?

Your final judgement is to assume that I am criticizing you because “my dvd empire is threatened”. “Empire” here is of course another judgemental word. Did you really think this through?

Do you really think that I felt financially threatened by the prospect of David’s $7,500. basic retreat underming my mission to share with the public what I’ve learned from qigong and inner alchemy?

Sean, there are plenty of family or closely held lineage, traditional teachers of various qi arts in China that will work only one on one with students. As you note, this method of transmission is threatened by lack of interested modern day chinese students.

Is this the future model of transmission likely to succed in the West? There are enormous financial and cultural-linguistic hurdles to be overcome for westerers seeking that kind of relationship.

As these Chinese teachers take on more westerners, their model will be forced to shift to accmmodate what is needed by their students. I think its great those opportunities exist for the few willing to pursue them. But its not the future of qigong and neidan in the West.

Enjoy your journey to living Without Judgement –
its a hard path, I’m still a neophyte myself :).
Michael