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November 27, 2015 at 8:26 pm #45323
Too bad they don’t have the Daoist/Chinese model.
The brain isn’t everything you know . . . S
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Secret to ‘living’ forever? Tech company reveal way to bring you back after death
By Kirstie McCrum
26 Nov 2015Humai are hopeful that their science fiction work may become science fact in just 30 years from now
A technology company says it’s working on a project which would allow a human’s consciousness to be transferred to an artificial body after their death.
In what sounds like a plot from a science fiction blockbuster, tech company Humai are working on human resurrection through artificial intelligence.
They’re hopeful that the technology – bionics, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence – will be ready in just three decades.
Creating an imprint of people to remain after they go , Humai is using artificial intelligence and nanotechnology to store data of conversational styles, behavioral patterns, thought processes and information about how bodies function.
This data will be coded into multiple sensor technologies, which will be built into an artificial body with the brain of a deceased human.
The science as they explain it means using cloning technology, they will be able to restore the brain as it matures.
Their website explains: “Humai is an AI company with a mission to reinvent the afterlife. We want to bring you back to life after you die.”
Humai, based in Los Angeles, is funded entirely by CEO and founder Josh Bocanegra.
Bocanegra told Australian Popular Science that the brain of the deceased will be frozen using cryonics technology so that when the technology is fully developed they can implant the brain into an artificial body.
“The artificial body functions will be controlled with your thoughts by measuring brain waves.
“As the brain ages we’ll use nanotechnology to repair and improve cells,” he adds, saying that cloning technology is going to help, and: “We believe we can resurrect the first human within 30 years.”
Bocanegra, who says he doesn’t believe that the “body was evolved with the best possible functions” says it’s all about offering a choice.
“I don’t think of it as fighting death. I think of it as making death optional.
“I personally can’t imagine why anyone would want to die but I respect their wishes.”
The company has five staff members, including two researchers, an AI expert and an ambassador.
“Will death always be inevitable? We don’t think so.”– HumaiTech.com
“Humai is reinventing the afterlife.”–HumaiTech.com
“We believe in life after death.”–HumaiTech.comNovember 28, 2015 at 4:41 am #45324It is amazing how stupid people are getting.
One day we will see humans walking en-masse into a machine that “copies” their personality onto a laptop and then murders them.
Humans cannot tell the difference.
Humans are not really aware that they are alive.
They just do whatever the TV tells them to do.This planet must be a one-off. I am sure there are aliens sitting on the Moon with a big telescope studying the complete derangement and ignorance that “homo sapiens” lives under.
Every time I hear the word “longevity” the words “does not understand anything” flash across my mind.
A sage who lives a long time only does so because he does not care to live long.
Lao-tzeNovember 29, 2015 at 10:02 am #45326According to Sarira Traya, the Doctrine of the Three bodies in Hinduism, the human being is composed of three sariras or “bodies” emanating from Brahman by avidya, “ignorance” or “nescience”. They are often equated with the five koshas (sheaths), which cover the atman. The Three Bodies Doctrine is an essential doctrine in Indian philosophy and religion, especially Yoga, Advaita Vedanta and Tantra.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Bodies_Doctrine_(Vedanta)Panchakoshas are part of the sthula sarira made up of matter, the suksma sarira which is made up of 1) the five jnanendriyas that give knowledge of external objects, 2) the five karmendriyas that lead to action, 3) the five pranas, 4) the five “subtle elements”, 5) the four aspects of antahkarana, 6) avidya, 7) kama and 8) karma; these eight collectively are the puryastakam also called the lingasarira, and the karana sarira which is the vehicle of the higher mind. The atman is behind the Panchakoshas. The Sathula sarira is the Annamayakosha (food-ful, consisting of the gross body). The Suksma sarira is made up of the Pranamayakosha (energy-ful, the subtle body), the Manomayakosha (instinctive, the perceptual body) and the Vijnanamayakosha (cognitive, the conscious body). The Karana sarira is the Anandamayakosha (blissful, the transcendental body). The Sruti insists upon elimination of these five sheaths of the sariras. The doctrine of Panchkoshas represents the hierarchy of human values and is held to be a useful springboard for a modern scientific understanding of cosmology and evolution.[
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchakosha#What_are_Panchakoshas.3FĀtman (/ˈɑːtmən/) is a Sanskrit word that means inner self or soul. In Hindu philosophy, especially in the Vedanta school of Hinduism, Ātman is the first principle,[1] the true self of an individual beyond identification with phenomena, the essence of an individual. In order to attain liberation, a human being must acquire self-knowledge (atma jnana), which is to realize that one’s true self (Ātman) is identical with the transcendent self Brahman.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80tman_(Hinduism)The false-light demiurgic parasites known as the “Lords” of Karma are perhaps the worst violators of free-will that I have encountered, second only to the corrupt demiurge itself. They are the primary gatekeepers that allow or deny beings access into and out of the demiurgic system, and as such, they must be exposed. Their perversion of the natural law of karma is so staggering in scope that I will only be able to cover a small portion of it in this article. To begin with, they are responsible for forcing beings to reincarnate over, and over, and over (and over) again, in clear violation of Universal Law.
-http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/…too bad they don’t have the Daoist/Chinese model.
The brain isn’t everything you know . . .I agree, but I also think that more important than knowing Daoist or Hindu model, is to learn solving problems by oneself.
These old teachings and lineages can be quite deceptive if one starts to think that without receiving some quite advanced information and instruction one is incomplete.
HOWDY
November 29, 2015 at 10:56 am #45328>>>I agree, but I also think that more important
>>>than knowing Daoist or Hindu model,
>>>is to learn solving problems by oneself.This is called DOING the practice, rather than KNOWING about the practice.
Many folks, even in the Healing Tao community, or for that matter ON THIS FORUM, preach all kinds of theories (either things they thought up or read in a book), but they don’t actually DO any practice. Thinking about ideas doesn’t change you, only practice does that. Practice could very well mean Healing Tao practice, but without putting that limitation on it, it also means action and direct experience.>>>These old teachings and lineages can be quite deceptive
>>>if one starts to think that without receiving
>>>some quite advanced information and instruction
>>>one is incomplete.NO ONE is complete. It’s why we are here. It is the purpose of life on this planet. To get completion. Completion with issues we need to work out and completion with the desire for play in direct physical form. Show me somebody that doesn’t have issues to work out and/or things in life they enjoy doing, and I’ll show you a liar.
There are too many people on various spiritual paths that, either claiming enlightenment or claiming they are on the path to enlightenment, would like to escape being here or transcend this physical world. For them, it is too messy, there is too suffering, or they believe all they need to do is to cultivate “present moment awareness” and sit in the space of it like a rock. But in truth, they are just big pussies that can’t take responsibility. These are people disconnected from their soul purpose.
When you connect to your soul purpose, which for most people only comes through actual practice, you get very clear on “who you are”, “what you want”, “why you are here”, and “where you are going”. There is no confusion anymore.
S
November 29, 2015 at 11:16 am #45330Ahamkara is one of the four parts of the antahkarana (inner organ) described in Hindu philosophy. The other three parts are Buddhi, Citta and Manas. In the Uttara Mimamsa or vedanta branch of Hindu philosophy, even though it is not discussed in great detail in the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna says to Arjun that ahamkara must be removed – in other words, it should be subordinated to the lord. The reason for this is that the Self is not (cannot be) present when one is in a state of ahankara.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AhamkaraI am nothing, everything about me is vanity, what should I do, I have to improve, you pray for me…I want to suffer for other people…but this is so cruel.
-ANNELIESE MICHELA double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, and one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will automatically be wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bind“Blackest Night” is a 20092010 American comic book crossover storyline published by DC Comics, consisting of an eponymous, central miniseries written by Geoff Johns and penciled by Ivan Reis, and a number of tie-in books. “Blackest Night” involves Nekron, a personified force of death who reanimates deceased superheroes and seeks to eliminate all life and emotion from the universe. Geoff Johns has identified the series’ central theme as emotion. The crossover was published for eight months as a limited series and in both the Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps comic titles. Various other limited series and tie-ins, including an audio drama from Darker Projects, were published.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackest_NightAtman can be identified only by negation of the anatman. The Panchkoshas are anatman that hide the atman, these koshas or sheaths are required to be systematically removed. Their removal brings to fore a void which void is also required to be removed. After removal of the five sheaths and the resultant void through the process of negation, what remains is the Atman; and then the non-existence of all the modifications beginning with the ahamkara is self-witnessed, the self that witnesses is itself the supreme Self. These five sheaths envelop the atman or “soul”. The Vedanta conceives the expression of the gross universe possible by traversing through all these stages of emanation from the cloud of Maya covering the face of Brahman to Sthula bhutas or gross matter with all its multifarious aspect including gross energy. Badarayana, drawing attention to Pāṇinis grammar (V.iv.21), explains that the suffix mayat as in Annamaya (made of food), Pranamaya (made of vital air) etc., besides conveying the meaning “made of” has also the sense of abundance and plenitude as well for which reason it is repeatedly said – Brahman is the Blissful (Anandamaya) Self.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchakosha#SignificanceThe primary tool that the ToK use to manipulate a being into accepting nearly endless reincarnation is the (false) “Light Review.” When a person’s body dies, they move out into the astral realms and begin to shed most of their previously held identity. If this process were allowed to occur without interruption, the True Light of that being would emerge from within them and they would release layer upon layer of limiting beliefs generated in that incarnation.However, within the realms of the demiurgic control system, what happens is that the ToK intercept that being just as their light is starting to emerge from within and surround them in a dazzling display of colorful external light. (This is why most of the people with near-death experiences report going through a tunnel of light.) The dazzling outer display distracts the being from the light emerging from within them and hypnotizes them through frequency entrainment and activation of any and all religious programming that being had been exposed to during their incarnation.
-http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/My personal opinion is that one should not fix too quickly one’s opinion this or that way.
…and hypnotizes them through frequency entrainment and activation of any and all religious programming that being had been exposed to during their incarnation…
Yes, but almost all conventional experiences and life situations are also one way or other harmful.
But if one again quickly looks back at that Anneliese Michel case, there logic would seem to be very simple.
So when she had been somehow too ascetic and pious teenager, first wave of angelic wrath arrived.
When she then became adult and more and more normal in external life, then the second and terminal wave of wrath pulled in.
It’s like with her any form of individual expression would have been in the end forbidden.
…a technology company says it’s working on a project which would allow a human’s consciousness to be transferred to an artificial body after their death…
From any spiritual point of view this should actually look much worse that accepting those Karmic Lords as one’s ally.
…they’re hopeful that the technology – bionics, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence – will be ready in just three decades…
Yes but this is the anatmic self (ahamkara/anatman) which would be retained and even that would seem to be impossible dream.
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
November 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm #45332WIRING A PLUG INSTRUCTIONS
Beginning : cable, pliers, screwdriver, plug, fuse
End : cable wired into plug and fused
Directions :
(0) using screwdriver remove central screw and plug cover
(1) using the pliers remove the outer sheath of the cable for 1.5″, and then the sheath ends of the inner cables for 0.5″.
(2) insert cable into base of plug, and the bare copper into the 3 terminal blocks, tighten terminal blocks to fasten the inner wires.
(3) reassemble plug cover using screwdriverSPIRITUAL INSTRUCTIONS
Bla bla bla bla ignorance bla bla bla bla dualism yadda yadda yadda yadda bla Panchkosha bla bla bla yadda yadda bla bla atman bla bla bla avidya yadda yadda bla jnana toblerone bla bla bla brahma bla parasite bla bla bla bla bla vedanta bla bla lineage yadda yadda yadda and a partridge in a pear tree.
OmNovember 29, 2015 at 1:48 pm #45334Sorry, but in my opinion Hobo practitioners don’t have problems with more complicated style of practice, because hobos do almost whatever they like unlike almost all others.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/23871/My personal view is that ascetics miss the mark. They are over-controlling through their relentless insistence and/or drive that things should a go a “certain way” (decided by some ego-based mental idea), in contrast to natural impulse. In my view, it is a rigidity and inflexibility of ideas that is characteristic of an earth imbalance.
-http://forum.healingdao.com/general/message/25600/Claiming to have received from the Virgin a revelation in which she ordered him to found a religious Society for the Reparation of Souls, Adèle wrote down the rules of the Society which also were dictated to her in a divine manner. In his journal Les Annales de la Sainteté au XIXe Siècle Boullan later explained that he tried “to offer to God a satisfaction or reparation – by special prayers and the physical or moral sufferings Christians accepted and even sought – in order to restore the balance that was distorted by the offenses against the divine majesty, committed by sinners who were not repentant”. With the approval of several senior prelates, the Society was installed at Bellevue Avenue in Sèvres, in the department of Seine-et-Oise. In fact, however, the community served only to conceal the amorous relationship between the abbot and sister Adèle. Soon, bizarre practices were recorded, with which Boullan tried to heal the nuns who where attacked by strange diabolical diseases. The abbot exorcised one of the sisters who was tormented by the Devil by spitting in her mouth; another had to drink his urine mixed with that of sister Chevalier, and a third was ordered to eat poultices made of faeces. Clerics asked abbot Boullan and sister Chevalier how they could reconcile – for money – the favour of the Blessed Virgin, and finally some very worldly women consulted them in matters of conscience…
-http://www.dailygrail.com/blogs/Flemish-Primitive/2009/7/Cult-Satanist-Abbe-Boullan“Ātman” (Atma, आत्मा, आत्मन्) is a Sanskrit word which means “essence, breath, soul.” It is related to PIE *etmen (a root meaning “breath”; cognates: Ancient Greek ἀτμός atmòs “vapor” (whence English atmosphere), Dutch adem, Old High German atum “breath,” Modern German atmen “to breathe” and Atem “respiration, breath”, Old English eþian).[3] Ātman is synonymous with Soul, Self.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80tman_(Hinduism)#Etymology“Nowanami, nowanami!” – proclaiming “I am no one, I am no one!”, backwards, when asked for his identity by Damien Karras.
-http://horror.wikia.com/wiki/Pazuzu…this is called DOING the practice, rather than KNOWING about the practice…
I also think that it’s important to keep one’s hobo status intact.
Anyway somebody who doesn’t take any practice only imitatively must learn to analyze what one is doing.
…thinking about ideas doesn’t change you, only practice does that…
I agree that any normal life situation is harmful.
Just say no to normal work, family etc.
…NO ONE is complete. It’s why we are here. It is the purpose of life on this planet. To get completion…
This is too simple.
But it also would be out of question to try to solve seriously this like that.
Anyway here it is difficult for some, when you should become sinner in order to become complete.
…my personal view is that ascetics miss the mark…
For some it’s great existential task to become a real incontinent wild animal.
…there are too many people on various spiritual paths that, either claiming enlightenment or claiming they are on the path to enlightenment, would like to escape being here or transcend this physical world. For them, it is too messy…
I totally agree that for some it’s great spiritual mission to bring more havoc and make world more messy.
Think Adolf Hitler for example.
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
November 29, 2015 at 3:45 pm #45336The Flesch-Kincaid reading ease score is the most widely used readability checker. The US military use it to assess the readability of their technical manuals, and its built into Word.
-http://www.thewriter.com/what-we-think/readability-checker/http://facultyfiles.deanza.edu/images/cafarellisusan2/BuddhasInsight2002.jpg
November 29, 2015 at 5:02 pm #45338If there was no separate self then there would be nothing to do, because there would be nobody to do it.
Who could make any action, if they was no separate ? Nobody.
Hence the fact that Buddha teaches at all indicates that he thinks separate action is possible and that separate selves exist.
Obviously.
However just because he was in a good place does not mean he could conceptually describe his state. Just because you are in Times Square does not mean you can help anyone else get there. You have to remember that after years of systematic work, one day he sat under a tree when something magically happened. In other words, he doesn’t know what happened.
His explanations borrowed heavily from the past, regurgitating it.
How could there be conditioned or unconditioned if there was only one thing ? That is already 2 things and we haven’t even begun. Brain please.
Secondly if there was only 1 thing … then there would be no movement, no internet, no beings, no bodies, no recognition or anything in fact. It would be dead like a blackhole. That is what one thing is. One thing means one thing. No planets, no universe, it would be an absolute blackhole.
For anything to happen there has to be at least 2 things. Therefore there are ‘separate’ selves and separation has occurred. Although it is true that a taste of oneness permeates all.
If you consider a tree, each leaf is separate and has private knowledge, however it is also part of the tree. Frankly it’s not that hard is it !
Thirdly, just because your ego is ‘false’ does not mean there is not a real you.
Fourthly, if there is no you then you may as well kill yourself because it is far easier than all this spiritual stuff and wouldn’t make any difference to the oneness.
Fifthly, there are 2 major flaws with this diagram. The first is that it describes a single state, and a human being is actually traversing from the ego-state decoupled from the oneness, to a higher state in which the new-soul is integrated with the oneness. And a conceptual model would need to show a number of difference states and the transitions between. Secondly this diagram is just repeating the past BS because not many humans are unable to have their own thoughts.
December 1, 2015 at 5:45 pm #45340>>>…NO ONE is complete. It’s why we are here.
>>>It is the purpose of life on this planet. To get completion…
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>This is too simple.People often overlook the simple, I find.
Yet often in the simple may the truth be found.December 4, 2015 at 12:28 pm #45342As MW puts in his email signature:
“The Tao is very close, but everyone looks far away.
Life is very simple, but everyone seeks difficulty.”
— Taoist Sage, 200 B.CDecember 4, 2015 at 4:55 pm #45344December 4, 2015 at 8:10 pm #45346The Second Edition of the 20-volume Oxford English Dictionary contains full entries for 171,476 words in current use, and 47,156 obsolete words. To this may be added around 9,500 derivative words included as subentries. Over half of these words are nouns, about a quarter adjectives, and about a seventh verbs; the rest is made up of exclamations, conjunctions, prepositions, suffixes, etc. And these figures don’t take account of entries with senses for different word classes (such as noun and adjective). This suggests that there are, at the very least, a quarter of a million distinct English words, excluding inflections, and words from technical and regional vocabulary not covered by the OED, or words not yet added to the published dictionary, of which perhaps 20 per cent are no longer in current use. If distinct senses were counted, the total would probably approach three quarters of a million.
-http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/how-many-words-are-there-in-the-english-languageShruti (Sanskrit, IAST: śruti) means “that which is heard” and refers to the body of most authoritative, ancient religious texts comprising the central canon of Hinduism. It includes the four Vedas including its four types of embedded texts – the Samhitas, the Brahmanas, the Aranyakas and the early Upanishads. Shrutis have been considered revealed knowledge, variously described as of divine origin, or nonhuman primordial origins. In Hindu tradition, they have been referred to as apauruṣeya (authorless). All six orthodox schools of Hinduism accept the authority of śruti, but many scholars in these schools denied that the shrutis are divine. Nāstika (heterodox) philosophies such as the Cārvākas did not accept the authority of the shrutis and considered them to be flawed human works. Shruti differs from other sources of Hindu philosophy, particularly smṛti which is remembered or textual material. These works span much of the history of Hinduism, beginning with the earliest known texts and ending in the early historical period with the later Upanishads. Of the śrutis, the Upanishads alone are widely known, and the central ideas of the Upanishadic śrutis are at the spiritual core of Hindus.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9ArutiMauna means to be silent outside and inside. In order to reach this state, one shall have to cut oneself off from the commotion outside and resstlesness of the mind and senses. In this practice, a person has an experience of being witness to everything, which is very important for meditation. Antarmauna can be divided in into three stages: (1) vak-sathyama (control of speech); (2) vatig-mauna (silence of speech);(3) antarmauna (silence of mind, too).
-Dr. RAJEEV SHARMA, Pranayama for better LifeSorry for my broken English.
Those spiritual instructions are actually much more essential than any technical verbalizations.
And being totally silent is much much more important.
…the brain isn’t everything you know . . .
HOWDY
December 4, 2015 at 10:02 pm #45348101:1.2 (1104.5) The Thought Adjuster has no special mechanism through which to gain self-expression; there is no mystic religious faculty for the reception or expression of religious emotions. These experiences are made available through the naturally ordained mechanism of mortal mind. And therein lies one explanation of the Adjusters difficulty in engaging in direct communication with the material mind of its constant indwelling.
101:1.3 (1104.6) The divine spirit makes contact with mortal man, not by feelings or emotions, but in the realm of the highest and most spiritualized thinking. It is your thoughts, not your feelings, that lead you Godward. The divine nature may be perceived only with the eyes of the mind. But the mind that really discerns God, hears the indwelling Adjuster, is the pure mind. Without holiness no man may see the Lord. All such inner and spiritual communion is termed spiritual insight. Such religious experiences result from the impress made upon the mind of man by the combined operations of the Adjuster and the Spirit of Truth as they function amid and upon the ideas, ideals, insights, and spirit strivings of the evolving sons of God.
-http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-101-real-nature-religionIn the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge (/ˈdɛmiˌɜrdʒ/) is an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe. The term was subsequently adopted by the Gnostics. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the creator figure in the familiar monotheistic sense, because both the demiurge itself plus the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are considered either uncreated and eternal, or the product of some other being, depending on the system.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DemiurgeAn archon, in the Gnosticism of late antiquity, was any of several servants of the Demiurge, the “creator god” that stood between the human race and a transcendent God that could only be reached through gnosis. In this context they have the role of the angels and demons of the Old Testament.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_(Gnosticism)In order to capture and control the widest possible spectrum of souls, the corrupt demiurge split its agents into two seemingly opposing teams: Dark vs (false) Light. Not everyone can be a saint, so there must be room for sinners within the demiurge, as long as everyone involved is under its spell. What matters most to the demiurge is that we worship it or one of its agents, regardless if they are on the light team or the dark team. There are many names of the players within this cosmic, multi-dimensional drama that you will have no doubt heard of such as: Lucifer, Jehova, Beelzebub, Arch Angel Michael, Satan (different dude than Lucifer), Ashtar, dozens of Arch(on) angels, supposedly ascended masters and various other channeled entities. While some of these beings play for team dark, and some play for team (false) light, they are ALL ultimately playing for the corrupt demiurge that controls them. This, in essence, is the big secret of the archons: They are not just the evil, demonic beings but also those who pretend to be angels and ascended masters…The corrupt demiurge is an entropic system of artificially-induced separation consciousness that is slowly dying, and it depends on harvesting the energy from the souls incarnated within its system in order to preserve its existence. In order to harvest the largest amount of soul energy possible, it created the dark-light duality paradigm to ensure that every being incarnated on a world that is under its spell would serve as a soul battery to help keep the demiurge energized. The good souls would seek out the (false) light team, and the bad souls would seek out the dark team, but unknown to most of those souls, they are all serving the same system. In order to keep the duality game interesting for its participants, the demiurge set up densities of existence that initiates on the dark and light paths could ascend through. This gives the beings moving through these densities a feeling of accomplishment, when in fact they are navigating through a labyrinth of demiurgic illusion. The players at the higher levels of the hierarchies know that they are in a self-serving system, but they are fine with the deal, because they get to wield power and receive the energy of worship from beings further down the ladder.
-http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/I wouldn’t too seriously try to proclaim what is the purpose of life on this planet.
It might be the most difficult type of question to answer seriously.
…people often overlook the simple, I find.
Yet often in the simple may the truth be found….Spiritual practices and development should be the way to find an answer; not somebody telling it’s this or that way.
It’s easy to see that with Daoist formulae this might be problematic.
You are offered something too ready-made.
Or is it so?
Anyway one would need to develop ability to judge when opinion or example from an authority is needed and when one should try to proceed independently.
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
December 4, 2015 at 10:33 pm #45350Elsevier B.V. (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈɛlzəviːr]) is an academic publishing company that publishes medical and scientific literature. It is a part of the RELX Group[2] (known until 2015 as Reed Elsevier). Based in Amsterdam, the company has operations in the United Kingdom, United States, Mexico, Brazil, Spain, and elsewhere.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElsevierDate: January 16, 2014
Source: Elsevier
Summary:
A review and update of a controversial 20-year-old theory of consciousness claims that consciousness derives from deeper level, finer scale activities inside brain neurons. The recent discovery of quantum vibrations in “microtubules” inside brain neurons corroborates this theory, according to review authors. They suggest that EEG rhythms (brain waves) also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations, and that from a practical standpoint, treating brain microtubule vibrations could benefit a host of mental, neurological, and cognitive conditions.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm
A review and update of a controversial 20-year-old theory of consciousness published in Physics of Life Reviews claims that consciousness derives from deeper level, finer scale activities inside brain neurons. The recent discovery of quantum vibrations in “microtubules” inside brain neurons corroborates this theory, according to review authors Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose. They suggest that EEG rhythms (brain waves) also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations, and that from a practical standpoint, treating brain microtubule vibrations could benefit a host of mental, neurological, and cognitive conditions.
The theory, called “orchestrated objective reduction” (‘Orch OR’), was first put forward in the mid-1990s by eminent mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose, FRS, Mathematical Institute and Wadham College, University of Oxford, and prominent anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff, MD, Anesthesiology, Psychology and Center for Consciousness Studies, The University of Arizona, Tucson. They suggested that quantum vibrational computations in microtubules were “orchestrated” (“Orch”) by synaptic inputs and memory stored in microtubules, and terminated by Penrose “objective reduction” (‘OR’), hence “Orch OR.” Microtubules are major components of the cell structural skeleton.
Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too “warm, wet, and noisy” for seemingly delicate quantum processes.. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair’s theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.
“The origin of consciousness reflects our place in the universe, the nature of our existence. Did consciousness evolve from complex computations among brain neurons, as most scientists assert? Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along, as spiritual approaches maintain?” ask Hameroff and Penrose in the current review. “This opens a potential Pandora’s Box, but our theory accommodates both these views, suggesting consciousness derives from quantum vibrations in microtubules, protein polymers inside brain neurons, which both govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes in the fine scale, ‘proto-conscious’ quantum structure of reality.”
After 20 years of skeptical criticism, “the evidence now clearly supports Orch OR,” continue Hameroff and Penrose. “Our new paper updates the evidence, clarifies Orch OR quantum bits, or “qubits,” as helical pathways in microtubule lattices, rebuts critics, and reviews 20 testable predictions of Orch OR published in 1998 — of these, six are confirmed and none refuted.”
An important new facet of the theory is introduced. Microtubule quantum vibrations (e.g. in megahertz) appear to interfere and produce much slower EEG “beat frequencies.” Despite a century of clinical use, the underlying origins of EEG rhythms have remained a mystery. Clinical trials of brief brain stimulation aimed at microtubule resonances with megahertz mechanical vibrations using transcranial ultrasound have shown reported improvements in mood, and may prove useful against Alzheimer’s disease and brain injury in the future.
Lead author Stuart Hameroff concludes, “Orch OR is the most rigorous, comprehensive and successfully-tested theory of consciousness ever put forth. From a practical standpoint, treating brain microtubule vibrations could benefit a host of mental, neurological, and cognitive conditions.”
The review is accompanied by eight commentaries from outside authorities, including an Australian group of Orch OR arch-skeptics. To all, Hameroff and Penrose respond robustly.
Penrose, Hameroff and Bandyopadhyay will explore their theories during a session on “Microtubules and the Big Consciousness Debate” at the Brainstorm Sessions, a public three-day event at the Brakke Grond in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, January 16-18, 2014. They will engage skeptics in a debate on the nature of consciousness, and Bandyopadhyay and his team will couple microtubule vibrations from active neurons to play Indian musical instruments. “Consciousness depends on anharmonic vibrations of microtubules inside neurons, similar to certain kinds of Indian music, but unlike Western music which is harmonic,” Hameroff explains.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm
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