TIME FOR HARD QUESTIONS:

Came across this by Michael a few weeks ago. Seems relevant to this discussion. (The bold in the quote is mine.)

Q. Is there any connection between the mass murder of 28 school kids & teachers in Connecticut and the timing of this Galactic alignment?

A. I feel they are deeply connected. Tao is about synchronicity. The murders happened on the Dark Moon before the Dark Sun of Winter Solstice. (I listed Dec. 12 as one of the most powerful times in my last newsletter). The dark moon pulls on our deepest unconscious negativity. There was nothing found to predict the extreme murderous behavior of 20 year old Greg Lanza. Everyone is puzzled, why did it happen, how could we prevent it again?

Greg did not personally have the will to committ the mass murders. I believe he was overshadowed by dark forces that are being forced out into the open by the Earth’s expanding galactic alignment. The very space between the molecules and cells in our body is being expanded. This increased neutral force in our body is reducing the hiding space available to negative ancestral and collective karmic forces buried in the psyche of humanity. So they are acting out, a desperate last ditch attempt to exert power. It’s been happening all over the world in recent years.

Yes, it was deeply tragic for all the families involved. But don’t be fooled by outer appearances. Individual humans are like tiny cells in the body of Humanity – we are totally expendable. Do you hold a funeral and sob when a few cells on your skin die? It is the same for Humanity. Souls flux in, souls flux out. The deaths of those children serve the greater good, by opening the hearts of millions just before this galactic alignment.

The same thing happened at 9/11 – a global heart opening was triggered by those 3000 deaths. These children in Connecticut 11 years later also sacrificed their lives to allow the current alignment to have more powerful effect in ultimately creating a less violent society. Senseless death motivates people to choose a future timeline of love and peace. I love the dark side, in that it strengthens our Light side. It makes us value our creative free will and our power to love, by showing us the terrible alternative.

Interesting that Michael suggests that the Children in Connecticut chose their life path, in this case getting shot.

Steven, enjoyed reading your trenchant thoughts. A few thoughts of my own. Michael writes

Individual humans are like tiny cells in the body of Humanity – we are totally expendable. Do you hold a funeral and sob when a few cells on your skin die? It is the same for Humanity. Souls flux in, souls flux out. The deaths of those children serve the greater good, by opening the hearts of millions just before this galactic alignment.

Michael seems to be saying here that skin cells are to the skin as individuals are to humanity. So is Michael arguing that, just as we don’t mourn the death of a few of the cells comprising the skin, so we shouldn’t mourn the death of a few of the individuals comprising humanity?

But surely this contradicts natural human behaviour. For whilst humans don’t naturally mourn the death of their skin cells, they do naturally mourn the death of their loved ones.

The same thing happened at 9/11 – a global heart opening was triggered by those 3000 deaths.

9/11 may have caused some people’s hearts to open. But, in the Middle East, some openly celebrated the attack. And 9/11 lead to, for example, the War on Terror, the Bush Doctrine, the invasion of Afghanistan and the second Iraq war. Not a great deal of heart opening there. So, in my view, it’s not at all obvious that 9/11 led to a net opening of hearts.

>>>Michael seems to be saying here that skin cells
>>>are to the skin as individuals are to humanity.
>>>So is Michael arguing that, just as we don’t
>>>mourn the death of a few of the cells
>>>comprising the skin, so we shouldn’t
>>>mourn the death of a few of the
>>>individuals comprising humanity?
>>>But surely this contradicts natural human
>>>behaviour. For whilst humans don’t
>>>naturally mourn the death of their
>>>skin cells, they do naturally mourn
>>>the death of their loved ones.

You are looking at this on the wrong level. If you are saying “shouldn’t we mourn the death of a few of the individuals comprising humanity”, you are looking at this at the level of an individual, i.e. another, but different, skin cell. When he is referring to “Humanity”, he is referring to the spiritual collective, the oversoul level, i.e. the spiritual soul aggregate that we are all part of, on a higher plane of existence.

This is why I was referring to “society” and the “collective” as different terms. Society is an aggregate of individual people in this realm of existence, a combined harmony of voices felt, made of individuals. By “collective”, I was referring to the oversoul level, which extends beyond human existence and life, on a higher plane of consciousness, which is a “soul lake”, from which each drop that leaves forms a human soul and life on earth.

So if you are talking about “mourning the death of their loved ones”, you are talking about skin cells mourning the deaths of other skin cells. And who knows, maybe they do. I’m not an actual skin cell, so I can’t say if they do mourn the loss of their brothers when I accidentally kill a few as I scratch my arm. But note: if I scratch my arm, is it because I have a plan to open the hearts of the other surviving skin cells, or is it simply because my arm itches and there is no master plan behind my killing of them, because frankly on my level, I couldn’t care less about what they think. On their level, their hearts may indeed get opened, but it was no master plan on my part. 😉

>>>9/11 may have caused some people’s hearts to open.
>>>But, in the Middle East, some openly celebrated
>>>the attack. And 9/11 lead to, for example,
>>>the War on Terror, the Bush Doctrine,
>>>the invasion of Afghanistan and the
>>>second Iraq war. Not a great deal of
>>>heart opening there. So, in my view,
>>>it’s not at all obvious that 9/11 led
>>>to a net opening of hearts.

Well, you have to be a little careful when you talk about “hearts being opened”. It’s a little bit of slippery language and can imply things that are actually not true. In particular, when hearts get opened, the result isn’t always good. The heart has positive aspects like love, but it also has negative aspects like rage. As a heart opens up and releases a lot of positive, it can also release a lot of negative. I think that’s definitely true with 9/11. A world-wide pouring of heartfelt love and support to the loss of the 9/11 victims, coupled with world-wide rage (most intensely felt coming from the US) that led to a rage-ful assault on the middle east. The same can be said for the result of the Connecticut elementary school shooting: the tender love for the children is also coupled with rage toward the shooter (and possibly in an extensible way to gun laws or other societal conditions that made the event possible).

This is also why–as a sidebar–why in loving relationships there are often upsets that would not occur in platonic ones. As the two people have their hearts open up more and connect to one another, not only does more love come out, but so does separately a lot of stored heart toxins.

It’s really part of the Daoist idea. You can’t have just “good”, if you want to qualify it as that; you also get the “bad” along with it. It’s not like you can get just one, without the other.

S

I think if we wanted to characterize the function of 9/11 in relation to the planetary rebirth hypothesis it would not be as a heart opening so much as an “eye opening”. Some polls in the US suggest that over 40% of the people believe the government was complicit in some way. 15 years later we see that one of most conspicuous signs of a change in mass consciousness is the dramatic loss of credibility of major institutions (speaking from a US perspective) – the media, politicians, politics, government, etc. – all are held in widespread contempt now. I have never seen any literature on the way in which 9/11 may have affected public attitudes toward societal institutions, but from my own experience, I found the study of the events around 9/11 to be a most startling window onto dark realities that I could previously have scarcely imagined. Few things have altered my mindset so profoundly.
The conspiratorial view of 9/11 is usually embedded in a larger conspiratorialist worldview. It is interesting to note that the worldview of what we might call the “new age” or “new earth” community is basically identical to the conspiratorialist worldview with these metaphysical elements superimposed on it that have to do with the anticipated shift in the global consciousness, etc. One way to interpret the change in mass consciousness that we are experiencing is that people now see through the mass deceptions that has been so successful for so long. And anyone who has looked into 9/11 knows the many deceptions around it are standing in plain sight, as it were, and how it easy it would be to expose them. Such an exposure would trigger a political and social earthquake the like of which we have never seen.

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You are looking at this on the wrong level.

Indeed I am! Thanks for clarifying. I’ll have another go.

I now read Michael to be saying that, in terms of expendability and mourning, an individual’s skin cells are to that individual as individuals are to Humanity/the Oversoul. That is, just as an individual regards their skin cells as entirely expendable and does not mourn their passing, so the Oversoul regards individuals as entirely expendable and does not mourn their passing.

​I’d heard Michael mention the Oversoul a few times and a couple of weeks ago had a root around the HT website to try and learn more. I’ve included a few links/quotes below​. Perhaps relevant to this discussion is ​​Michael’s view​ that there are multiple Oversouls who can fight amongst themselves.
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In many cultures it’s personified as twelve creator gods & goddesses, who generate twelve great soul tribes and all human archetypes. When they fight amongst themselves, we call it the Battle in Heaven, mirrored on Earth as the struggle between good and evil.

​A few questions occur to me re Michal’s perspective. If it makes sense to say that an Oversoul “thinks” with a single mind, then why would an Oversoul regard individual humans as expendable? Perhaps because it understands that death is not the end and that the soul will continue its journey/learning/evolution? If we all have an Oversoul level of consciousness, is there any difference between saying the Oversoul mapped out the manner of the Connecticut children’s death and saying that, on some level, the children’s souls chose their own death?

Anyway, ​Steven, ​I understand your main point to be that, whilst​, like Michael, ​you hold that the Oversoul​ level​ exists, unlike Michael you don’t regard i​t as​ carrying out some grand evolutionary plan.​ According to Michael this plan includes bringing about heart opening designed to “serve the greater good” by “ultimately creating a less violent society”. Thus, Michael seems to be suggesting that the result of heart opening – for example, 9/11 – is a net positive. As you say, 9/11 unleashed both positives and negatives and I wonder whether it’s ​actually ​possible to calculate/determine whether the aftermath has been, or will be, a net positive​?!​

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A few Oversoul links/quotes

​From ​​​​h​ere​.​

Here is an excerpt from my book: Primordial Tai Chi: Way of Enlightened Love, chapter 3 on Tao Cosmology that describe the function of oversoul or “da shen”:

Great Spirit (da shen). Oversouls or group consciousness at cosmic level. Da shen is the moving expression of tai yi’sstillness, the Original Birth of Multiplicity from Unity. It’s Nature’s collective consciousness at the impersonal causal level, a.k.a. the Spirit Body of the Tao. ​​In many cultures it’s personified as twelve creator gods & goddesses, who generate twelve great soul tribes and all human archetypes. When they fight amongst themselves, we call it the Battle in Heaven, mirrored on Earth as the struggle between good and evil.

Different oversouls are said to overshadow humans with extraordinary spiritual powers and insight in order to become prophets (e.g. examples are how ordinary humans who merged into their oversoul to become Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha). It’s one of many ways that oversouls shape the evolution of Humankind.

In Tao model, the Three Pure Ones arise from tai yi (the Great Oneness), divide into three heavens and the four ca​​rdinal directions, forming a zodiac with twelve pentagons (dodecahedron, depicted above). This sacred geometric architecture is called Pre-natal Heaven, the matrix of Inner Time-Space-Beings that flows in yin-yang and five phase cycles. The Chinese calendar is based on this five phase, twelve-sided zodiac. Over souls or da shen are guided by the impulse of Pure Love and Free Will received from tai yi which compel them to create new realms within this cosmos. They are not creators of the muliti-verse, although they may guard the boundary of this cosmos.

Oversouls co-create and manage the destiny timelines of Humanity. Christian angels and Buddhist boddisattvas are cultural perceptions of messengers from Great Spirit. In Tao, star beings or immortals are the most common messengers.

And here​​.
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​In my understanding, both achieved and unachieved souls end up in the same realm, that of the Over Soul (Collective Higher Self, or metaphorically, the Stellar Mind). There are 12 of these Over Souls, that’s where we get the archetypes of the 12 signs of the zodiac, the Chinese calendar’s 12 Terrestrial Branches, and famously, the 12 Gods who live atop Mt. Olympus. But the achieved and unachieved souls have very different experiences, once they arrive in the celestial realm.

The more integrated your body-mind (ego identity), and soul (true self) are at the moment of death, the greater free will you will be given by the Over Soul in your ensuing re-birth. The lazy, fragmented, addicted, or self-hating egos just get parked, like cars in a cosmic junkyard, until the Over Souls pick out their traumatized parts and recycle the fragments into hopefully more productive lives. In this theory, the incomplete soul and its “egoic fragments” do NOT re-incarnate, but its “pieces” (5 vital organ spirits or wu jing shen) do find themselves implanted into brand new soul patterns.

Then there are the souls who spiritually worked hard to overcome the challenges dealt to them, and who materialized some degree of unconditional love while on Earth. They also get put to work by the Over Soul. But they hold a more integrated identity and get to consciously choose their ongoing process of cosmic creativity. In short, they graduated from Earth School and can choose to move on to higher dimensional playgrounds where their earth-learned Free Will can be put to responsible good use.​

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>>>I now read Michael to be saying that,
>>>in terms of expendability and mourning,
>>>an individual’s skin cells are to that
>>>individual as individuals are to
>>>Humanity/the Oversoul. That is, just
>>>as an individual regards their skin cells
>>>as entirely expendable and does not mourn
>>>their passing, so the Oversoul regards
>>>individuals as entirely expendable and
>>>does not mourn their passing.

That’s correct.

>>>​I’d heard Michael mention the Oversoul
>>>a few times and a couple of weeks ago
>>>had a root around the HT website
>>>to try and learn more.

Alchemical methods for contact/interaction are taught in the Star Alchemy course.
He also presents his views about oversouls in that class, in the context of the material presented. I resonate with much of it, but I disagree with the view that they are “tinkering” with life here and acting as helicopter parents. I just don’t think that’s how it works.

​>>>A few questions occur to me re Michal’s perspective.
>>>If it makes sense to say that an Oversoul “thinks”
>>>with a single mind, then why would an Oversoul
>>>regard individual humans as expendable?

Easy. There are 7+ billion people on the planet. Even if you divide that by 12 according to his model if you believe in 12 oversouls rather than 1, that means that each oversoul would be responsible for 500 million + people. Consequently, what do a handful of people make, compared to 500 million +. Do you worry about the handful of skin cells that die every day? No! Because they are an insignificant number compared to the overall total.

>>>If we all have an Oversoul level of consciousness,
>>>is there any difference between saying the Oversoul
>>>mapped out the manner of the Connecticut children’s
>>>death and saying that, on some level, the children’s
>>>souls chose their own death?

No. These are identical in my view, and I’m sure Michael would say the same.

However, to me, both are equally ridiculous. On the latter option, it is ridiculous to think that all of these children all agreed to die, and do it on the same day, and know to arrange things to be in the same classroom at the same time, all in advance, with all of the random variables that go on in life. To me, there is too much quantum fluctuation of events for anything pre-planned to occur. Likewise, in the former option, the idea that the oversoul is mapping out and planning events is silly to me. For one, if we accept the 500 million+ concept, do you really think it is spending its time focusing on 20 children when there are 500 million+ seeds that it spread? It’s ridiculous. There are so many people living and dying every day, it is getting plenty of varied learning from so many different sources, it doesn’t need to be a tinkerer or helicopter parent.

>>>Anyway, ​Steven, ​I understand your main point to be that,
>>>whilst​, like Michael, ​you hold that the Oversoul​ level​ exists,
>>>unlike Michael you don’t regard i​t as​ carrying out
>>>some grand evolutionary plan.​

That’s correct. I believe the oversoul’s main function is TO LEARN. To do so, it breaks off pieces of itself (i.e. individual souls) sends them to earth, to have a physical life and collect experiences. Then when we die, we meet our oversoul again to deposit this learning. I.E. as in many near-death experiences, there is a “life review”. To me, this is the oversoul asking “ok, what did you do with your life? Show me, and tell me what you did when you were gone”. But it is not paying attention in the meantime of an individual life. It’s more like, “go off and live your life, and then come back and give me a report”. Out of the 7 billion people, there are so many people dying all the time, each with unique lives and stories to tell, that I don’t believe they have any need nor desire to step in and tinker with lives on Earth.

As above, so below.

And yes, just like us, they are creating and not just learning. But they are creating on their plane of existence, not ours. Just like I create in my physical life, and I don’t worry about what my individual single skin cells are doing. My skin cells do what they do, and I live my life creating on a plane of existence that my individual skin cells don’t really understand.

>>>As you say, 9/11 unleashed both positives and negatives
>>>and I wonder whether it’s ​actually ​possible to
>>>calculate/determine whether the aftermath has
>>>been, or will be, a net positive​?!​

“Net positive” is, in my view, an ego-based human desire that is not a reality. There is no such thing as “net positive”. You can’t have positive without negative. There’s a strong ego human desire for things “to get better”, for somehow over time, you can eliminate more and more negative. To be honest, I think this is a fantasy. In my view, the only thing you can have is CHANGE. Things will change. With that change comes positive and with that change comes negative. Whether you individually “like” the change that arises, is entirely subjective.

But specifically, there will always be human conflict and wars, alongside different aspects of peaceful interactions. How these may manifest as generations live and die, may take different appearances, but you will always have both. The human idea of “eventual world peace” is a dreamy fiction that inspires hope, but it is not reality, in my view. You might get beautiful roses, but you’ll also get thorns along with them. It’s the balance and interplay of positive and negative.

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As to the quoted links and text, you put in, I don’t want to get into a long essay on it. Suffice it to say that agree on some parts, and disagree on others. The main area where I disagree with, is the bit about oversoul tinkering and overshadowing humans and this kind of stuff. To me, a lot of it is Christian / Western religion overlay of “God has a plan for me”, which is, in my view, an ego attachment in disguise. Instead, unconditional acceptance (i.e. pure love) from on high, allows pure freedom without manipulation . . .

S