Emelgee

That is why I *asked* him to respond, rather than demanded it. If he chooses not to respond, I don’t have a problem with it.

Emelgee.

Or, how about this way…

“You seem to have raised children. My compliments go out to you Wendy”.

!!

Emelgee.

Or is it the kettle calling the pot black?

🙂

I can’t remember…

Eeeesh, Fajin…you can get a bit short with your messages.

Calling Alexander difficult to deal with is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black!

If I recollect you are in your early-20’s, yes?

I loved my early-20s – I knew everything and could tell people what I thought with such self assurance! Now, as I am about to turn 30…[Read more]

Plato – can you respond or add to Pietro’s post titled “on shock and help” in any way?

I would be interested in your further views and not just your “shocking entertainment”!

To go back to your original post which, from memory, was your relaying to a woman your views on how to keep a man (paraphrasing here) – did you *really* say those…[Read more]

You make me laugh, Plato! <– meant sincerely and not sarcastically.

Thanks, Pietro, for putting the post of Plato's poetry. It is good to know there are other facets to Plato's "published" behaviour. Maybe that is the most shocking thing I have seen pulshed by Plato!!!!

Emelgee

I am not really amazed by the post and I can’t say I am too concerned about the underlying reasons behind his need to communicate in this way – that is his burden to bear.

In my opinion, it is very easy to be “shocking” – as Plato is – but it is *much* more difficult to help/assist/educate/enlighten (what ever word fits here the best!) a person…[Read more]

Hi Wendy,

I think you are very courageous for sharing your experience and for participating in the subsequent discussion in such an open way.

I am not sure I could have done it…

Emelgee

Ahhh – the ego needing someone else’s reaction to feel more enlightened, perhaps? The puppeteer pulling other people’s strings…but, only for their own good, am I right?!

Plato – I will respect anything anyone says but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with the method in which it is conveyed.

By using the method you do, you essentially…[Read more]

Plato

When you say things with a view to shock – the intent of your point will be lost in the offensive manner of its transmission.

I get the gist of what you are trying to say but couldn’t you have found a better way to say it? When you make certain types of comments, you shouldn’t be surprised by a “negative” or “flipped out” reaction.

Emelgee

Hrmmm…

*taps head*

Nope…no thoughts here! hehe 🙂

Hi Pietro

Thanks for your reply. I think I get what you are saying…I have lost the train of the post as I haven’t really been around the last week or so.

Can I clarify (for myself)? You enjoy women, you want women to enjoy every part of you. You don’t necessarily always see the point of the defined “boundaries” of friendships – you see…[Read more]

Interesting post, Wendy.

I have a slight disagreement (or perhaps, refinement?) to your last paragraph.

I don’t feel western women want to “control” the man – if I was to make a gross generalisation, I would say they want to negate his existence entirely.

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Hey there, Pietro…

Haha – yes, we women do enjoy the complexities of the relationships we find ourselves in. I truly feel that a balanced and healthy relationship(s!) can be one of the greatest things we can hope to achieve in our lives. It can also be one of the more difficult things to achieve and I feel this is because people don’t forge…[Read more]

I’m sorry for your experience, Max.

As a woman, I can see your point about how it would be that you could feel that women may ask you to stop being who you are. But, possibly, that wasn’t really (or always) their intention? I know in the past I have asked questions of lovers who have misinterpreted my questions to be requests to change when…[Read more]

I read something somewhere that those things we point out in other people as being “unattractive” traits, are simply traits we ourselves possess. Sort of takes me back to that childhood retort of “It takes one to know one!!” (I am thinking maybe Eckhart Tolle…)

I think all of the points raised have some merit. I think the exchange of ideas…[Read more]

Thanks, guys 🙂

All words greatly appreciated.

My partner and I have discussed this further (words are such a chore and generally confuse issues more!) and he has said he is willing to give it a try and so, we will try!

Emelgee.