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Heya Ocean –

>>I’ll keep the subject on a low cook, and maybe the real answer will come out over time.<<

Surely it's obvious? Underneath a burning desire to convert someone is always a lingering doubt about oneself. I would say Max has had many great experiences following his path but something about the fact that people on here aren't…[Read more]

Heya Michael –

>>It shouldn’t be such rocket science to authenticate. Not much more then go to bed and how many fingers am I holding behind my back.<<

Oh man! I see what you mean. I can answer you pretty well.

I had involuntary OBEs for a while, and now I can get out deliberately, but it's not nearly as simple as you'd think and I'm still…[Read more]

Heya Hubertji –

>>Devraha Baba would often say that there is a Gyan Yuga coming in the midst of Kali Yuga<<

I know what I Kali Yuga is but what is a Gyan Yuga? best NN

Hey Pietro –

>>We like to keep things a bit edgy. You know, just not to fall asleep at the steering wheel. ;)<<

Ok then. As long as you're sure all this kerfuffle doesn't actually *constitute* falling asleep at the steering wheel… best NN

Heya Singing Ocean,

You have a point. Might it perhaps be time for Bodri to put a discussion board up somewhere? Then everyone can do what they like in peace! best NN

Heya Michael –

>>Anybody have any good links w/ evidence? Heck I’ll even take more recent anecdotal stuff.<<

I know of no scientific evidence generally available, but if you are interested in more recent anecdotal stuff, these are cool books:

"Astral Dynamics" – Robert Bruce
"Out Of Body Experiences" – Robert Peterson
"Adventures Out Of…[Read more]

Being new here I suppose that it’s not my place, but in the interests of peace may I humbly recommend we drop this? best NN

Hey Pietro –

>>You just happened to light a spark above an oil tank. Happens.<<

That's me, spreading peace and love where'er I go!

This spirituality business, eh? Funny old world! best NN

Hello Master Yoda,

>>The website believes that energy cultivation practice is like plowing the field and meditation is like planting the seed–they work best when done together.<<

Oh and I'd agree absolutely, although I'd have to add that those two things are not your only 2 options either. Bring them all on say I, the more the…[Read more]

have I walked into some kind of war here? NN

Heya Pietro –

>>I wrote my entry after having read that thread, the whole of Plato’s blog (nice one btw), the article and Plato comment on Eric.

Why?<<

Sorry, I literally just wondered if you'd seen it. I'm a newcomer to all this and would not want to judge anyone's character that I didn't know. best NN

Hey Michael –

>>As I said, NN, don’t bother reading the book, it will only confirm your opinions.<<

Don't worry, I'm not going to read it! I've spent as much time on this subject as I care to… not really what i came here for. best NN

Heya Pietro –

>>To only remember his death threads from his unbalanced periods, is like remembering of a person only their smell when they are ill. Not really fair.<<

That may be true, but wonder if you checked out the new thread further up? – about "what happens to NYC Taoists and such"? best NN

Heya Max –

>>Sadly, you judge Bill based on his marketing skills- without reading any of his material or meeting him<<

Well I think that in fact Michael's post from way long ago, which I did search out, answers things very well. However, I am quite satisfied from looking at his site that there is nothing there for me. I did look further…[Read more]

Well thank Mr. Winn for that nice post would you Michael? ;].

>>(Eric was routinely issuing death threats on this forum, btw).<>As to whether one can separate technical questions from ethical questions, in the beginning yes, in the end, no<>And I certainly didn’t mean to imply that all magicians would have Eric’s problems, or that you would…[Read more]

PS, just checked out Bodhi’s site. He sure sells a good game! All this, “The secrets of being very rich, YOURS for just $20!” stuff! He’s obviously studied marketing at length if nothing else – NLP salesmen will be familiar with such techniques as “I feel safe putting you in this product’s hands to get started at meditation”, etc. He is trying to…[Read more]

I think personally that Bill Bodhi is suffering what alot of people do who find a great way to practice – they start to think it’s the ONLY great way. I think it’s funny he said “zen puts out more enlightened people” but also that “there are no qualified students today”!

One of my more enlightened acquaintances, Glenn Morris, says to me that if…[Read more]

“Michael” – oops, didn’t notice that you ARE Michael Winn! Thanks for your reply. best NN

Hey Michael,

You wrote:

>>About 20 years later, Eric got back into the magic – let’s call it black magic – and to make a long story short, the dark side got the better of him, sucked him dry and spit him out. They always win the game of manipulation.<>Certainly there are Magical Schools of Taoism that would be much closer to the western…[Read more]

I’m sure you’re right. What particularly interests me is to log on the site and right away see a vid of Mr. Winn standing in a circle and bowing to the four directions – a western magician knows where he is with this kind of thing! In western magic it’s more common to talk about 4 elements plus one central fifth one, a quintessence, than to use 5…[Read more]