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Thank you to Michael and to 6. There’s a lot to benefit from what the two of you have said.

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Will do. Thanks for all of your help.

Rob

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I am subscribed. Try the following link and see if you access all of the chapters:

https://michaelwinnv5.qlogictechnologies.com/articles/taoalchemy_idx.html

I can only access one chapter.

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I also meant to say that I can’t access the article that you mentioned. I can access all of the other ones, but there is only one working link in the “Daoist Alchemy as the Deep Language of Nature” article.

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Thanks for the quick response. I’ll see what Marie is up to. We had a good connection before, when I was taking private lessons from her. She always gave me a modest discount due to being a broke student at the time (now I’m still broke, but not a student). We focused only on practice, which was good, but I never even heard of the seven formulas before coming to your site.

I see what your saying about the difficulty of sorting through all the varieties of qigong. For some time I’ve felt that a paradigm of some sort is essential, in this case you are referring to the seven formulas as such a paradigm.

On another note, that’s interesting about your double scorpio being hidden. It’s true without a doubt that if your moon and rising are the same sign then that sign will be the dominant influence–even over the sun. My rising sign is in Sagittarius. So for me it’s Scorpio sun, Libra moon and Sag rising. I was born year of the dragon and I can be an asshole Scorpio! 🙂

Oh, you’ve answered another one of my questions in your reply to Keith. So Mantak really did do as David implied.

That’s all for now. I have to think about how to scrounge up the money for your Chi Kung Fundamentals 1 & 2 package with the Bone Breathing and Rooting package (MPD1, MPD2, and MPD2B). I hope there all available in CD form already.

Rob

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Michael,

In my previous post I got carried away I guess, but now I feel like I was in someway abusing you with my silly questions. Silly because there are many questions in my last post that are not of any real importance in the scheme of things regarding my development and progress. Plus, you’ve already provided the information about Kwan Sai Hung in your new post above.

I also want to say that your answer about David Shen was helpful beyond informational value. So thank you for making the decision to share it with me. Oh, and when I said I would try to verify it, I meant on the inner planes for both me and you. I figure it always helps to get some extra confirmation of our more subjective experiences.

So this time just two:

>> 2. What are your feelings about Xingyi, Bagua, and Tai Chi? Do you feel it is
>> necessary or not, or helpful maybe, to supplement the internal alchemy with
>> any of the above?

> Not necessary if you choose other qigong movement forms. everyone needs a movement practice, just need to choose carefully before
> investing so much time with possibly little result. I practice both bagua and tai chi, mostly for sheer pleasure. Bagua is closelyaligned with
> alchemy via the I Ching, but the neigong I teach with each level is more focused in its alchemical effects.

What other qigong movement forms are there besides the major three listed above?

>> 5. Can you or anyone recommend any teachers of anything in Massachusetts?

> Yes. a General anwer for a general question.

Can you recommend any teachers of internal alchemy and of movement qigong in Massachusetts and if so, then who?

So that’s it. Thank you for all the time you’re taking to respond to our questions.

Rob

PS
I thought everyone might be interested to know my sun is in Scorpio. So yet another one! Michael, you are attracting scorpios. My moon is in Libra though.

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Brian,

That is a good and helpful story you’ve shared. When reading it, I thought “I can’t believe I forgot”. Back when I first began to meditate if I were to meditate a little too long or connect with a potent source of energy, I might become extremely irritable and all that comes with the state of being irritable. My first meditation teacher called this “over stimulation”. He would tell his students that, when doing occult meditation, they should only meditate for 15 minutes for the first five years, and then increase it to 20 minutes and so on.

I don’t know if you’ve experienced this, but I also would become extremely irritable if I would suddenly “stop” doing my daily meditation. My teacher said that when one begins meditating, a fire is ignited in ones mind and when one continues to meditate old issues surface and our perceptions of them are purified by this fire. So when we stop meditating the fire dies down, but often these issues will continue to surface. Something like that anyway. 🙂 Screwing with my daily habit of meditation definitly played a role in the irritability though.

Rob

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Hey,

Thanks for sharing. I’ve definitely experienced something similar to you, time and again simply not putting the time into the practice. Like you, one day that all just changed and finally I began making progress and even began to know a thing or two from direct experience. I never did hurt myself though, I guess your practice must’ve been pretty insane huh? What were you doing and how much or how long were you practicing everyday?

Thanks again

Rob

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Golden Sun,

Have heard of the documentary “Legend of Atlantis”? I found it very interesting. It’s worth checking out whether the information presented is 100% or not.

http://www.legend-of-atlantis.com/atlantis.htm

For anyone who doesn’t know about The Emerald Tablets of Thoth, you can read it from the link below:

http://www.inthelight.co.nz/spirit/emeraldtablets/tablets.htm

Rob

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Michael,

You brought something up that I forgot to ask:

> And I guess that means you don’t want to find out how I came to know of Kwan Sai Hung’s german blood line.

I want to know. Please do tell!

Also, I have something to say and some questions about these powerful astral beings, but I have to go for now. More later.

Rob

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Michael,

Thank you very much for your reply. I really do appreciate it and all that you’ve shared. I hope you don’t mind continuing this dialogue, because there are still so many questions. Of course I will only ask a few at this time. 🙂

Now to the questions:

1. About David, thank you for sharing that information. I will try to verify this on the inner planes for myself over the next several months. What about Mantak? Did he learn as much from David as David implied?

>> 2. What are your feelings about Xingyi, Bagua, and Tai Chi? Do you feel it is
>> necessary or not, or helpful maybe, to supplement the internal alchemy with
>> any of the above?

> Not necessary if you choose other qigong movement forms. everyone needs a movement practice, just need to choose carefully before
> investing so much time with possibly little result. I practice both bagua and tai chi, mostly for sheer pleasure. Bagua is closelyaligned with
> alchemy via the I Ching, but the neigong I teach with each level is more focused in its alchemical effects.

What other qigong movement forms are there besides the major three listed above? How about yoga, like ashtanga yoga with its vinyasa flow routines coupled with ujjayi breath?

>> 3. Do you or anyone know of Kwan Sai Hung and if so, then what are your
>> thoughts about this being. Is he worth learning from or not?

> I studied with him in the past. A remarkable trickster and good martial artist.
> But I found his chi level to mostly physical, not high spiritual. He is a half-German orphan (seems to be a theme here), the novels about
> him are totally fictional unless you read the subtext of the third one : he worked in chiense restaurants for 20 years…..

Okay, this is interesting. Can you give any instances of his trickery? Which of his offerings are good (Tai Chi, Bagua, Daoyin, all of it)? What are all of the novels about Kwan Sai Hung? I only know of “Chronicles of Tao”. How old is he actually, was he really born in 1920? Also, you are not the first who has told me that he isn’t all that he’s said to be. I know you can understand why I’m asking these questions.

>> 4. Can you or anyone comment on the Magus of Java? What is it that he does?

> The film of his teacher lighting newpaper with fire emitted from his palms is a well known chi kung fakery, uses a chemical form of
> phosphorus that invites with a little spit.

Are you referring to the “Ring of Fire” documentary?

>> The author of the “Magus of Java” said in his second book Nei Kung, that he
>> developed dark circular scars on his palms, what is that all about? What is
>> this Mo Pai system of his in relation to different sects of daoism?

> Everyone in China calls themselves a Taoist, even most buddhists and confucianists and Mo Tzu was the same. Overlapping, but mostly
> different teachings than what we call “pure” or “early” taoism, pre-temple taoism.
> But China is filled with curious and interesting lineages. He gives a good story, but I would not want to chase after his 72 level largely
> martial arts system….

Can you comment on the dark circular scars on his (Kosta Danaos) palms?

>> 5. Can you or anyone recommend any teachers of anything in Massachusetts?

> Yes. a General anwer for a general question.

You got me here. I was hoping that this would give you more freedom to respond, since any more specific question would be limiting. But okay, to be more specific: I intend to join you this summer and to order some of your home courses, but I also intend to participate in a group to practice daily or weekly. The practice I’m referring to is internal alchemy and what you refer to as movement qigong. Who would you want to learn from if you were restricted to massachusetts? Also, can you provide any advice as to a particular teacher that is beyond just abundant physical chi, like yourself?

>> 6. Do students ever take your entire line up of summer courses? Do you
>> consider this a bad idea?

>I don’t permit it. Those students who did this with Mantak invariably quit their practice, overloaded themselves with head food, too little
> digestion.

Even if the student has already taken your courses or has studied and practiced your home courses? Will you never permit it or does it depend on the student?

>> 7. Is there an equivalent to Naropa’s Tummo Yoga in the daoist internal
>> alchemy?

> depends what you mean by equivalent.

I mean equivalent in terms of providing the same results.

Michael’s response to Q11:

> My comments were serious.

> In my therapeutic experience, it is very common for people to suppress their core issues until their first saturn return, age 29. Then
> saturn/earth element pushes the conflicts to the surface and forces you to make life choices to resolve your core issues. So Buddha’s story
> fits this model perfectly.
> Pre-natal trauma is essentially spiritual trauma, you have no defense against it because your pre-natal spirit is wholly merged into your
> mother’s post-natal bodily identity.

> “Life is Suffering – and then you die” was imprinted on gautama’s consciousness, seared into him like a branding iron. Emptiness is a fast
> technique for relieving suffering – if life is empty, then your suffering is empty as well. A deep topic I will pursue elsewhere.

Thank you for elaborating on your original statement! It’s much more clear now. For clarification, in your original statement it seems that you were referring to the original personality level motivation/need of Buddha when he was still referred to as Siddhartha. In this sense, it is more understandable when you said “I think he ran in every direction he could find to get away from the problem of the body”. Please feel free to set me straight if you feel I’m off on this.

I know there is a great deal more to what you are sharing and I look forward to the deep topic you will pursue elsewhere. The concept of spiritual trauma is new to me and is a good one, I suppose I’ve just never heard it or expressed it myself in that way. Incorporating your knowledge of astrological cycles is also impressive and leads me to wonder what might surface when I experience saturn return.

Well, thanks again Michael. I hope that you can once again find the time to answer a few questions. Within the next few weeks I will be ordering some of your home courses, I feel quite excited about it! I admit that I feel a little ambitious about what you have to offer. I just want to swallow it whole! I know better though.

Cheers my friends

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