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thanks for these infos on the book!
there’s also a technique mentioned in Evans-Wentz’ Tibetan Yoga
called “Trong Jug” that was allegedly used for this transference of conciousness into another body… eerie, kind of, to me!if you have a chance to lend a copy of maciocia’s “practice of chinese medicine”, I would go for this book.
there are ten very detailed pages about multiple sclerosis, its
aetiology, pathology (e.g. invasion of external dampness, diet, excessive sexual activity, shock) and its differentiation and treatment (e.g. damp-phlegm with spleen deficiency, liver and kidney deficiency; acupunture, herbal formulars)shabd
what do you think of this??
shabdwow, probably a relative of the legendary KILLER RABBIT
heavy stuff, thanks for posting.
lately I saw a photograph of the indian couple who seemed to have come
up with it and i felt toatally taken aback by their vibe and thought
I wouldn’t allow those people to touch my crown. never! weird.shabd
this reminds me of the story told in Rushdies Satanic Verses
where Ayesha, an spiritual miracle women, leads her group into the
Arabian Sea, which she expects to part like the Red Sea in the bible.
Most people drown of course, but one survivor states:“Just when my strength had failed and I thought I would surely die there in
the water, I saw it with my own eyes; I saw the sea divide, like hair being
combed; and they were all there, far away, walking away from me.”so I really wonder what this priest is doing in the astral now…!
>>My Tibetan teacher’s former teacher was one of the runners. I learned this art.
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hey i’m honestly impressed. (but also feel a litlle stupid: now there’s someone who actually learned it while I idled away my time reading books…)is it about cultivating your upward-moving prana? what center is mainly practiced
in this art?maybe you’d like to share.
thanks
shabd>>.. I know of some of these. I do not know how Wang Liping did it in that book since it didn’t sound like the earth element. It might be possible to sit on the earth element alone but you wouldn’t be able to move – it would be like you’d built a little hill.
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not being able to move in this kind of levitation is the same thing John Chang mentions
after demonstrating this to Kostas. Yes, probably not the earth element but something else….>>BTW, what you experience in your dreams sounds like you could be good at OBEs if you wanted!
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actually I had hoped that my experience of these dreams might kind of
get through into my abilities in the waking state, which alas very clearly did not happen 🙁shabd
(and sorry for spamming several posts just to post one actual text)
Levitation and Light Body
my favourite daoist fancyI have an interest in levitation and light body since a long time. (One could probably deduce some psychological issues from this. Why does someone think flying is cool? Following Learys model, I prepare for the next evolutionary step of mankind: conquering space ;-). Freud was more into sex here, as far as I remember.)
What partially lead to my interest in this topic is a series of dreams I had over the years, very realistic dreams, very vivid, colourful and irritating in their sense of the physical. In these dreams I am able to either float some minor distance above the ground in the position of a ski-jumper, or run very fast in a way that my steps become longer and longer, or am able to jump very high, almost like floating. Always these actions in my dreams feel like an actual physical feat or knack, they require some skill and are quite demanding. The necessary power and concentration in every case is clearly brought forth by the power of my dantian. In the dreams my dantian sends out power or activates this force that lets me float. I really love that special feeling of these dreams!
(In my real life I am not so talented for jumping high or even being agile. People will recognize me by my clumsy gait. Skateboarders and parcouists that move themselves so lighly and fluid Im always amazed at.)In my view there are two different principles here. The one is true floating, meaning levitation, the other is making the body very light and agile.
How are they done? Franz Bardon mentions two basic ways:
One is by accumulating the air element inside the body, which will make you very light.
This in some cases can happen as an accidental imbalance: its not by accumulating and storing the air element, but -through trance or elswise- your body looses other elements, especially the earth element, so you get more and more weightless. (Bardon speaks about sleepwalkers in this regard)The other way is by gathering and condensing the magnetic (yin) force in your body. At a certain level this magnetic force equals the pulling force of gravitation (that is also magnetic) on your bodyweight and your body will start to detach from the ground. Another variation of this second principle would be to project a kind of energy cushion of magnetic force (or also earth element) beneath you, that then would support your body in the air.
(of course theres also a third way discovered by Douglas Adams: you throw yourself to the ground and miss. You will only be able to miss when you are distracted by something startling while falling. You eventually can be starteled by s.th. so much that you completely forget to hit the ground. There are schools where odd-looking aliens are employed that will jump at you from behind bushes while you try to perform this feat : 🙂
The chinese method of qing gong (lightnessd ability) or qing shen fa (light body method) clearly is from the first category. The most etailed explanation of the traditional qigong, kungfu and mediation exercises that will develop this ability I found in Shou Yu Liangs Kung Fu Elements. It has a own chapter about it! Among many others hes describing classic physical excercises in this field like learning to walk on the rim of a large pot filled with water. Every now and then a little water is poured out, so the whole affair is on the edge of loosing its stability. Same thing: walking on the rim of a basket filled with stones. Another one is about digging a pit and jumping in and out, every few days the pit is dug a little deeper. Shou Yu Liang tells about legendary practitioners who focussed their life long training begining from early childhood on it. They were able to jump from standing onto the roofs of houses, even carrying people on their backs.
The shaolin monks are also known to have cultivated this. There are photographies of monks that obviously could jump vvery high.On Wudang mountain (damo-qigong) there seems to be on teacher of this art?
Running along walls, being able to crawl up walls very quickly, running on top of bushes or grain fields, or even walking on snow without leaving footprints are other legendary applications.
Taijimasters are also reported to have performed these feats.
In tibet you had the longgompa(?) runners, who prepared by a 3 month long special meditation to run like the wind trough the mountains, often wearing heavy chains so they would stick to the ground. (reported by Alexandra Neel, as far as I remember)Then there is the real levitation category. Kosta Danaos decribes how John Chang demonstrates it for him in a hotel room. He mentions the negative influence of the synthetic carpet which would make it harder to perform. This would confirm he above theory because the carpet acts as an insulator to the yin force of the earth. So he is not able to draw in the yin from the ground as easily and second making the meeting of these two yin-forces (the earthes and his) less distinct.
Then again in Wang Lipings biography is described how his teachers start floating above he ground while meditating in the mountains. Wang Liping then is said to have played a trick on them snatching away the energy they sat on, so they all of a sudden fell to the ground.
In the theravada text of … is described how you could learn to sit on a projected mass of the element of earth .
In the west levitation is reported to have taken place quite often, during religious extasy, or being posesed by spirits. Holmes is the most known man, you repeatedly floated around wh wh
many witnesses were around.
Schroeder /Ostrander report about experiments performed in Russia. People would sit inside a cubicle made out of mirrors. Some of them showed reduced body weight when meditating in there. Russia! I also posted this story about the flying insects freak from Siberia some time ago at taobums.shabd
Levitation and Light Body
my favourite daoist fancyI have an interest in levitation and light body since a long time. (One could probably deduce some psychological issues from this. Why does someone think flying is cool? Following Learys model, I prepare for the next evolutionary step of mankind: conquering space ;-). Freud was more into sex here, as far as I remember.)
What partially lead to my interest in this topic is a series of dreams I had over the years, very realistic dreams, very vivid, colourful and irritating in their sense of the physical. In these dreams I am able to either float some minor distance above the ground in the position of a ski-jumper, or run very fast in a way that my steps become longer and longer, or am able to jump very high, almost like floating. Always these actions in my dreams feel like an actual physical feat or knack, they require some skill and are quite demanding. The necessary power and concentration in every case is clearly brought ffunny this comes up here as I recently
compiled some private brainstorm on the topic, see here:Levitation and Light Body
my favourite daoist fancyI have an interest in levitation and light body since a long time. (One could probably deduce some psychological issues from this. Why does someone think flying is cool? Following Learys model, I prepare for the next evolutionary step of mankind: conquering space ;-). Freud was more into sex here, as far as I remember.)
What partially lead to my interest in this topic is a series of dreams I had over the years, very realistic dreams, very vivid, colourful and irritating in their sense of the physical. In these dreams I am able to either float some minor distance above the ground in the position of a ski-jumper, or run very fast in a way that my steps become longer and longer, or am able to jump very high, almost like floating. Always these actions in my dreams feel like an actual physical feat or knack, they require some skill and are quite demanding. The necessary power and concentration in every case is clearly brought ffunny this comes up here as I recently
compiled some private brainstorm on the topic, see here:Levitation and Light Body
my favourite daoist fancyI have an interest in levitation and light body since a long time. (One could probably deduce some psychological issues from this. Why does someone think flying is cool? Following Learys model, I prepare for the next evolutionary step of mankind: conquering space ;-). Freud was more into sex here, as far as I remember.)
What partially lead to my interest in this topic is a series of dreams I had over the years, very realistic dreams, very vivid, colourful and irritating in their sense of the physical. In these dreams I am able to either float some minor distance above the ground in the position of a ski-jumper, or run very fast in a way that my steps become longer and longer, or am able to jump very high, almost like floating. Always these actions in my dreams feel like an actual physical feat or knack, they require some skill and are quite demanding. The necessary power and concentration in every case is clearly brought fi love kora music!
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