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Thank you.

Anything that induces strong spiritual experiences have potential for dependency. For some people a strong mystical experience might even in the long run be destructive. The person might start to chase the experience again, forget about the outer world and only sit and meditate or commit themselves to other practises. Clinging and chasing such experiences only blocks them. All spiritual experiences are only road signs and have to be left behind if you want to travel to the direction they point to.

I don’t belive drugs themselves can be a complete path. But i do that for some people, drugs can be used as a rare tool.

And you ONLY always experience yourself.

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MDMA is the only drug i had any real, lasting benefit from (6 years ago) and i only took it once. Other drugs i do very rarely, but i do not really find them that interesting. I don’t see myself part of any “drug scene”.

Of course you need to do real work on yourself: keep a regular meditation practise, keep your body in shape, and try to be compassionate towards yourself and others. For most people drugs probably do way more harm then good. But i think it’s unreasonble to say that no person ever, in any culture had any kind of constructive experience on any type of empathogen/psychedelic substance.

To me you just sound like Mr. Mackey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXnUZBD_qV4

Mmmkay?

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MDMA is successfully used for treatment of post traumatic stress.

Psilocybin (active substance in magic mushrooms) is used in dying patients, to help them accept death: ‘Researchers are reporting preliminary success in using psilocybin to ease the anxiety of patients with terminal illnesses. Dr. Charles S. Grob, a psychiatrist who is involved in an experiment at U.C.L.A., describes it as “existential medicine” that helps dying people overcome fear, panic and depression.

“Under the influences of hallucinogens,” Dr. Grob writes, “individuals transcend their primary identification with their bodies and experience ego-free states before the time of their actual physical demise, and return with a new perspective and profound acceptance of the life constant: change.”’
– http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/science/12psychedelics.html?hp

To label all mind altering substances as being the same (despite the face that their effects and how they work on the brain differs dramatically) just seems plain ignorant.

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Ok! But i disagree this is the case with all drugs. I took mdma (ecstasy) a few years ago, and that made my chi flow way faster and stronger (almost too much), nothing stuck in the head then. I guess it depends on what drug it is.

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Thanks for the answer, Steven. I appreciate your honesty.

What’s happening now doesn’t feel unpleasant at all. Shouldn’t “losing my center” feel unpleasant in some way, if that’s what happening? It feels great and harmonious. I might have some boundary issues in general (when i am around ppl with negative energy or ppl who feel negative towards me, it becomes a huge issue).

I have not decided yet entirely what to make of your post. It depends if there really can be any problems if i feel “great” so to speak (and if you are correct). I have not felt this good in many years.

If you are indeed correct, what concrete problems could it cause? I practise qigong and zazen regulary (if that info is of any help). I also take sceletium tortuosum regulary (very grounding).

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