Trunk

Gee.. what books was the guy practicing from?

There’s an increasing amount to agree upon..

I would agree that the inner smile and what MWinn calls “the neutral space” are the HT version of stillness practice, and that bringing well-blended energy into the deep-center of each tan tien facilitates the development of stable centers – which can increasingly serve as a bridge to individual ~…[Read more]

I think that perhaps you are entirely missing my point.(?)

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To acknowledge your points:

s> Alchemys still works even when people have minimal time to practice. Having half an hour to focus on the pearl is ideal, but.. >

I acknowledge that it is possible to develop an energetically formful practice that is fairly effective at…[Read more]

Go to a qualified dr of chinese medicine. Hopefully you know of a good one in your area.

so> The point of inner alchemy is to crystallize yuan jing as a result of harmonizing the five phases. By opening the Kan and Li portal, we are accessing the dimensional frequencies of early heaven directly .. >

In this lineage, its axiomatic that anything straight out of the text-books (& ad campaign) both has some truth to it and is…[Read more]

a bunny was hopping along and met
a True Master, who said, “Know yee the Egg?”
“what-the-huh?” inquired the bunny

“be Still for a moment,
let chocolates and Shiny Things
rest in the Hidden Basket
– and there –
the Luminous Meadow
waters The Yolk,
and sets The Egg afire”

The Bunny’s fur shined, eyes sparkled,
and children everywhere…[Read more]

m> Yes, we have a DVD available by Karin Sorvik, and will be getting one in from Mantak Chia shortly. >

Tao yin is such a good practice. Maybe you could post here on the board when both are available through the site, so we know & can order.

f> did I? >

No, it was this:

j> If one misses any of the above, it is “people”‘s fault, not Chia’s. Always. >

That statement is protectionist silliness, imo.

f> Maybe Mantak didn’t do a very good job, but he certainly wan’t that bad of a writer >

fyi, Chia doesn’t actually write any of his books, its generally one of the people…[Read more]

Its not just bad for students. It reflects poorly on the HT itself: If people don’t get good direction and results from the books, less likely that they’ll show up and pay $ for workshops, retreats, etc. It also is bad for instructors. Personally, with Chia’s writing material that bad, and Chia directing training of instructors, it doesn’t…[Read more]

Oh, puh-lease.
If you’re unwilling to admit that the written material incurs no harmful consequences – that its %100 the students’ responsibility – then, by the same token, the written material incurs no beneficial consequences. That is, the book’s worth is zero (and $0), its %100 the students’ doings.

Clearly that is not the case. Fact is,…[Read more]

a gratuitous plug for my (all free) site.

AlchemicalTaoism.com

Fajin,
Thank you for the open conversation.
(And thanks to Michael & James for providing this space where we can all openly share views.)
kind regards,
Trunk

f> assuming that the practitioner already has gotten through the blockages in his orbit before he even THINKS of accumulating qi >

That’s quite an assumption.

f> As I have once told you that I practiced lung-gom-pa, I filled my intestines by taking huge breaths of air and leaping cross-legged with the breath held. It’s like plavini…[Read more]

I’ll probably write an essay and post it at my site at some point, and say these things in a more thorough, clear, and polite manner. .. with my mis-emotion refined out, cleaner intent.

(Note: the vehemence in the following post is not directed at you, Fajin. Its my take on the book.)

f> Qi pressure refers to how much qi is accumulated in the dantian. It is like a tire inflated with air, the more air the stronger the air pressure in the tire. >

“Iron Shirt”, “qi pressure”, “tire inflated with air” … Those are the worst…[Read more]

T> at the crux of the union of energy-refinement-work with No-Map. The deep-center, the mysterious pass, the bindu teachings, the neutral space – all terms that relate to the intersection of an energetic center and the central channel, and how that gets done. Without that, qi gong just goes in circles forever, gradually tangling upon itself.…[Read more]

Not suggesting that it has to be ‘all the time’, certainly unadorned personal experience is amongst the most.

Just that it’d be cool if, one out of six threads, or one out of ten threads, centered around inquiry into a classic text. I think it’d enrich the board, and enrich personal spectrum of inquiry.

Max> The Taoist immortal teachers .. all instructed their students to practice Emptiness meditation to clear their minds and hearts from desire, clinging, lust- before they taught them any specific formulas. Clear untainted mind and heart were the prerequisite and the foundation. >

btw, the Tibetans sequence is similar, in that it…[Read more]

b> The pearl will eventually become an exact replicare of ones body, in the form of an energy body, one can condense or expand it, one goal is that this pearl/energy takes the form of an energy body, and if one prefers to say sometime the Shen body, this is the taoist language. My view these already exist,taoist alchemy seeks to touch or become…[Read more]

b> creation of a pearl or not is just a method, we already have a pearl. >

b> I think in a way we are like a diamond in the rough, the diamond always is there, its about revealing it. Chan is solely about the diamond, its methods focus on that. >

Those two statements reveal that you are perhaps missing an important piece, imho. Or my lack…[Read more]