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Cutting off the fundamentals.

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Home › Forum Online Discussion › Practice › Cutting off the fundamentals.

  • This topic has 9 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 9 months ago by Jernej.
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  • September 26, 2007 at 2:49 pm #24587

    sebastian

    I’ve already said once on this forum about a bad experience I had from practicing meditation practices (the fundamentals described in chia books).
    I’m actually taking tai chi classes with a internal arts teacher, and told me that I should cut off meditations practices due to can be pretty dangerious without a teacher and guiding thyself by just using a book. He just “limited myself” to practice tai chi by the moment and do not practice the microcosmic orbit.
    Wanted to know Michael and other wise comments on this and experiences.
    I’m pretty far away from the US so no way I can follow chia methods from the distance, I could have doubts or do something wrong, and find no one that teach me details that a book have missed.
    Regads.
    S.

    September 28, 2007 at 1:03 pm #24588

    Jernej

    just playing…
    a wise guy (government sanctioned version of wisdom)
    1.an obnoxiously conceited and self-assertive person with pretensions to smartness or cleverness
    (or: a person who makes sarcastic or insolent remarks so as to demonstrate their cleverness)
    2.usually wiseguy : MOBSTER
    (per Oxford and Webster)
    so know who calling
    but NN should be write on why energetic practice be
    time

    September 28, 2007 at 5:36 pm #24590

    Nnonnth

    I should be write about why energetic practice be time?

    Could you clarify?

    September 29, 2007 at 3:44 pm #24592

    Jernej

    sure mate 🙂
    homo sapiens suggestion #1: do the form
    homo sapiens suggestion #2: go for the light
    quite the opposites of same polarity
    so
    ‘To talk more about making this neutrality in ourselves, and about mating darkness and light, we have to talk about energy work;’
    the next show
    should be interesting
    why is always the most important

    from
    ‘ BuhlmanÂ’s trend toward the dismissal of the physical has continued – his more recent book, ‘The Secret of the SoulÂ’, is full of this form of words. Despite being beyond forms and words alike when he found the Light, I donÂ’t think he has made much progress towards mating it with the darkness. For all that he seems a very nice chap! And certainly he is not a fan of the more ossified forms of religion. He has courage, and shows core intuition right here where I was quoting him – ‘Unsure of what to do, I instinctively release and surrenderÂ’. That is the key!

    Meanwhile we will tackle more of the kundalini process as I see it in later posts. To talk more about making this neutrality in ourselves, and about mating darkness and light, we have to talk about energy work; we also have to talk about ‘Neither-NeitherÂ’ as an actual practice, and its relationship to sexuality, and so we will have to return to that perennially fascinating topic, Austin Osman Spare.’
    http://nnonnth.wordpress.com/

    that was volume, now regarding form
    always considered my synthax as a form of ‘bantu’ language, symplified normalized choose-bias language
    but found it fun to see it in my face
    in a book, (a xenoc race voice translator or affinity band speaking)

    he was quite a fun read, the night dawn trillogy
    even cracked up when he said in a foreword of a book i didn’t read (misspent youth)
    that as a member of the community of sf writers he cannot speak on the source of the inspiration, but (can and) wishes to thank his editors and similar

    September 29, 2007 at 3:57 pm #24594

    Nnonnth

    … I can say, ‘huh?’ or I can go item-by-item.

    I prefer to say ‘huh?’ on balance.

    October 2, 2007 at 10:14 am #24596

    sebastian

    I had no answers. I’m not criticizing anything at all, otherwise doing the opposite. If I hadn’t got all this info the time I did and wouldn’t have experienced physical/spiritual moments that can be compared. I had lot of several experiences but wonder how can they be taken along at the distance without the master to be asked for advices.
    Regards.

    October 2, 2007 at 10:47 am #24598

    Nnonnth

    I can’t answer you unfortunately but would if I could. I did wonder whether the thread just developing over on the ‘general’ page was helpful at all for you? Maybe someone else will get back to you.

    October 2, 2007 at 12:32 pm #24600

    Dog

    Click search instructor button to the left. Save up untill you can go to retreats. Buy cd and dvds. Books are pretty low on the list of preferred moods of transmission. Some things I found helpfull. If doing yin(meditation) form smile, hug, open up, yang(Chi Gong) form use joy and laughter, make it childs play, great if your taking your self or what you are doing to serious.

    October 2, 2007 at 4:44 pm #24602

    snowlion

    Sebastian:

    Just a thought:

    I believe a great error that many students make is: Some never take the time to cultivate basics in meditation, such as calming the mind, relaxing the body and devloping the breath; probaly due to others fault and not the student . Sitting and standing practices will develop your tai chi better for that.

    You can follow Jack Kornfields method which is from a Buddhist practitioner perspective, but is very good no matter what you pursue.

    Inner smile, orbit practices, healing sounds are all very great practices to build
    from after the foundations of cultivation are in place.

    I don’t know why Mantak Chia never published or promoted these practices-probaly since so many others have been teaching them. But will for sure make your body/mind more balanced. Daoist practices in general are taught with these foundations in place kind of link a built in safety feature.

    S.L.

    October 3, 2007 at 11:21 am #24604

    Jernej

    “i am not your teacher, life force is your teacher”
    “direct connection to divine providence”
    thus external master can only be give a surrogate connection
    🙂

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