getting down to brass on life extension

I am well aware that M. Chia himself does it, and promotes it in his Cosmic Cleansing Book, where you even see a picture of him drinking a glass of pee. Moreover, I’ve run into a good number of other folks in the Healing Tao community that do it as well. I think maybe even Michael does it (although I don’t know for sure).

Just because there are lot of people on this bandwagon in the HT community, does not mean I’m going to follow it.

I very clearly stated why I think it is bad idea with multiple bullet points, namely the excess salt intake, a lot of the urine with its toxic urea going back into the blood, the need for the body to filter the urea out twice, and the most important bit that it overworks the kidneys in all this excess filtering.

No modern medical health professional will say it is good for you. They will all tell you that it causes stress on the kidneys.

There are plenty of different “alternative” medicine “professionals” that do different studies that “show it to be” beneficial, in contradiction to modern medical science. If you wish to believe them and follow their findings, go nuts.

Personally, I would believe your sleeping better had to do with the lack of caffeine intake, not the urine drinking. I’d bet you lost the desire for caffeine because you felt so nauseous from drinking urine that caffeinated beverages sounded terrible. Hey, if that’s what you got you off the caffeine, then kudos.

By the way, as to your 1% comment, I can choose what portions of a post to respond to, just like everyone else does. If you have an emotional reaction because other folks don’t respond in the way YOU want them to, then that is YOUR issue, not mine or anyone else’s.

Also, I don’t have to agree with you, regardless of what “evidence” you provide. You are going to have to learn to accept that others don’t have to agree with you, regardless of your reasoning.

S

>>>No you posted lunacy that only governments care about terrorism
>>>and that no one else has your 1.5 years of calc experience

Please stop misquoting me.
I never said either of those things.
It’s just spin and nonsense, and a weak attempt to create an argument.

1. I said that wars and political games are things that governments like to play, but ordinary citizens do not. No ordinary citizen wants a war or to be involved in political games. I did not say “only governments care about terrorism”. This is clearly false. There are many citizens that care about such things, sharing news reports, sharing outrage, etc. I only said I don’t care, because it is a never-ending cycle to which I feel I have no control over, and I choose to invest my energies in things that I feel that I can affect.

2. I said YOU lack a basic understanding of calculus, as well as Tom Bearden whose work is rife with mathematical errors. It’s not any kind of personal attack on you OR him. It is just a simple fact. And that comment was only made after you persisted over a period of time continually defending something that is mathematical incorrect. If you want to take my assessment personally, it is your issue. If someone wants to show off something mathematically, they better be prepared to be pointed out where they are wrong, especially by folks that know a million times more about the subject. Believe me, if any professors in the mathematics department had read any of that stuff, they would have been far less kind than I. They wouldn’t even tried to point out where you were wrong, they would have just ridiculed you.

I never said “only governments care about terrorism”. Plenty care.
I never said “no else has 1.5 years of calculus experience”. A lot of people do.

I ask that you discontinue saying things about me that are false, as they constitute libel.

Thanks,
Steven

Do you ever think that people don’t respond to your topics, because they are not interested?

Most people are interested in qigong because it improves their health, and helps them better manage their emotional body. They are not interested in some kind of biospiritual metaphysical analysis. If you are, great! But if you can not handle that others are not interested, again this is YOUR issue. It’s nobody else’s problem.

S

P.S. IEEE is an electrical engineering society.
It doesn’t mean its members understand math, e.g. Bearden
Demonstration of ignorance is not the same as libel.

http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1981/ajan81/amar.shtml

Amaroli is an important technique of yoga which was first used in conjunction with many of the advanced practices. Today, however, amaroli is better known as a therapeutic process and people everywhere are asking how it can be used.

First of all, amaroli must be learned from a qualified teacher who has thorough knowledge of the practice. The method of taking amaroli varies from person to person. In some cases it is the fresh substance and in others the preserved substance that should be used. Sometimes only the first urine of the day is taken, and in other cases it is taken up to lunch time. In the case of fast growing diseases like cancer, we tell the patient to drink everything.

Amaroli becomes very powerful if you take care of your diet. Whatever purpose you use it for, you must avoid proteins of every nature. It is also best to avoid too much sweet, sour, spicy or pungent food. Raw food and certain fruits like banana, papaya and citrus fruits are very good in the practice of amaroli. Remember that the raw foods have better value for building up the bodily resistance and fighting disease. Those who take amaroli after lunch must discontinue the practice one hour before and three hours after each meal. It is also a common rule before practising amaroli, to make an application on the head and soles of the feet, that is, you have to anoint the head and feet.

In the past, yogis used amaroli because when meditation is practised for long hours, the inner body temperature falls. Under such circumstances, the practice of amaroli maintains the digestive system.

Meditation also has an effect on the cardiovascular system, and the blood pressure can drop suddenly. If it falls gradually, this does not matter so much, but a rapid fall adversely affects the cardiovascular system. Amaroli safeguards against this. Therefore, if you practise meditation for long periods, you should take amaroli for this reason.

Scientific discoveries have revealed that amaroli contains up to twenty four distinct groups of hormones. One of these is uricode which is important for maintaining the health of the cardiovascular system. This is why the advanced yogis took up the practice of amaroli.

Female yogis also practised amaroli because long term use influences the levels of prostaglandin hormone in the reproductive system. These hormones destroy the ova before they have matured.

By the practise of yoga and especially hatha yoga, all the impurities are thrown out of the body as it is cleansed. When the body is pure, its power of immunity is lost. So a yogi can sometimes suffer from contagious diseases because his system contains fewer antibodies. Thus amaroli was practised by great yogis to maintain a certain ‘level of antibodies in the body. These yogis could remain in a cave for three months and nothing would happen to them, but if an ordinary man did this, he would get a lot of skin problems.

If you want to practise amaroli, you must find someone who knows the science and can teach you properly, but this is basically how to start. Have a simple fast for one day. You can take fruit juice, and raw or boiled vegetables, however, a total fast is better. If your intestines are not clean, empty them by enema or glycerine suppository. If you know the short version of shankaprakshalana, taking six glasses of warm salty water, that’s the best way.

Next morning when you get up, take the midstream of the first urine. This is enough to start with, and you can continue taking this for one month. If you don’t have any positive or negative reaction, then start to use the second urine also, sipping a little water in between. Don’t drink the water, only sip a little, not more than half a cup. Continue twice per day for another month. During this time you will definitely have either a positive or negative reaction. If it is positive, increase the intake to three times each day, sipping water in between. If there is a negative reaction, find out what it is due to. Perhaps it is caused by improper diet, or maybe you are suffering from some disease. In this case, reduce to the previous quantity. If the reaction is positive, increase by one round.

In my opinion, three rounds is sufficient. Continue this for many months. Then once in a year or so, leave your home and stay alone somewhere in the countryside, fix your diet and practise amaroli the whole day, for one week only. If there is a positive reaction every day, continue. If there is a slight negative reaction, go back to the stage up to which you did not get that reaction. You will not have any problem then.

You have only to eliminate the excessive protein from the diet and continue this practice with total patience. Even if it takes one, two or three years to come up to the full practice of amaroli, it is still a rewarding period. It will help you in meditation and also in maintaining good health.