Is Iron Shirt also Martially Applicable?

If you were to train many hours a day for many years it could be. Just a little each day, dont try or you will get hurt.

Its like tai chi, most classes spend a few minutes at the end of the class going over martail appliacation, this is not training, dont bother trying in real life. There may have been a time were they trained hours a day in application.

So keep this all to health and vitality and avoid the fantasy, those fantasies are rooted in people who practiced many hours a day for years. Often people forget that.

bagua

leakage at the knee happens when knee is bent too much, and position is maintained by virtue of leg strenght and not waist/kwa strenght. if legs are almost not bent, it demands the least strenght of kwa to keep the stance structure, thus is such a way conducive to thigh tissue relaxation and kwa fortification.
if knee is not twisted, it can relax and revitalize: this is the strongest joint available and already overabused, so give him a brake and allow for nurturing of its worthy succesor, the kwa. if the knee and ankles are twisted, but not supported by real kwa power (and sometimes by not grounding in earth), that is overexposing them. might be called abuse.

jernej, do you have any pictures of correect position ans you decribed? thanks

well – everyone has their reasons – for example he’s teaching rugby players to absorb blows – which is very usefull, I imagine.

I myself plan to become an infamous street-fighter and slowly gather notoriety untill I can take over the world!! muaahahahaha :0)

but seriously – why not? if it takes only a few months, and you become far more resilient, it means any knocks, car crashes, falls, accidents, fights etc that come your way, you’re far more likely to come out un-injured.

1. hand position:
see positions 1,2,3, they are ok
but make sure that the height is qihai (some inch bellow navel) and not navel

adjustement for positions of postures 4,5:
have lower hand at sacrum level, and upper at navel area
thus in the/their middle is dan tien
(in so applying winn standing hand positions)

inso hands are below solar plexus (not disturbing liver,spleen untill support is strong) and do not innitiate connection between lower and middle dan tien (again waiting untill root is)

2. leg position:
rich mooney legs are ok
he demostrates quite straight legs
(and he did serious amount of standing, went up to six hours of rhytmic body movement with feet still, then cut down to three hours to remain social
see http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-139.html
search down for THE USE OF ENERGY (QI) IN MARTIAL ARTS APPLICATIONS))
(http://www.nqa.org/articles/eternalQiHealing.pdf)
(nqa also has some other interesting articles by wu, johnson: http://www.nqa.org/articles/index.html)

however if very strong kwa one can go lower by opening kwa more
that means kwa opens more on its own strenght and is not pulled open by other tissues
that than looks like
http://www.hunggar.net/downloads2.htm
(full size posters free download
do expand them to full size for inspection)
then knees can bend more (or more accurately ‘are bent’, by the kwa)
(hung gar people are also in love in ‘six hour standing’ notion)

3.juan li pictures
they are correct
the iron shirt books pictures
do not miss the covers of books

but they pressuppose serious kwa strenght
and that is not the norm in society

PS: if you ever look for slavinski people, he is in australia
he became notorious for getting aspectics book and self-did 2000+ processes, claims to have opened his heart this way super expedited
http://spiritual-technology-association.com/trainers/stojakovic_vladimir.html
http://www.arelena.com/

sifu mooney qi book

“…it means any knocks, car crashes, falls, accidents, fights etc that come your way, you’re far more likely to come out un-injured.”

Bro, if you do that, then you are preparing for war. Know what I mean?

It is not a useful belief, to paraphrase what you said to Yi Tao above, to plan that there will be something to deal with. There, of course, will be, but the lifeforce will determine how that should go no matter what you do to protect yourself. If you have to have an experience for your greater good, for the rectification of unresolved energies, then nothing that you do will change that happening because the energy has to go somewhere. In fact, you could be bringing it toward yourself by focussing on it. “He who seeks to save his life will lose it.” -Jesus

And I think this is the essence of many of the basic arguments that have taken place on this site – There are those who simply do not trust that the lifeforce has a plan and is in charge, and who are capable of seeing the situation only from the standpoint of being unimportant victims in a dangerous universe they have to protect themselves from. The above discussion started by Ron looks to me like it is based on this. I am clear that our job at this time on earth is to stop feeding fear and start nourishing trust.

It is very difficult for most people to be confronted with this kind of thinking because they are glued tight to their fears, thus their protective interests, the remnants of survival fears from our past which have been heightened recently because they have come to the surface to be purged. To bring it up usually makes them angrier and more frightened. In the end, after some coaxing to those who can hear it, one can only watch silently, holding the Space while the lifeforce does its work “out there” and things resolve organically.

One of the most important ideas in Daoism is non-interference. This is what makes meditation work. To create the inner Space is to allow “what is” to be, and that is how the alchemy happens. It never happens from doing something about something that already exists. That is the fool’s way- fooled by his/her own agendas, fears of God and designs to conquer the world (like you!). These practices are designed to build the inner ability to hold the Space, the center, and thus deflate the energies of opposition from their extremely overextended positions so that harmony is returned. What you feed, grows.

Blessings, Alexander

thanks so much for the great pictures.

i noticed that slavinski people are here in australia, that’s a bit of a bonus, i’ve also found 2 very good masters from china who are linaege holders, now living in aust, so i don’t have to search in the northeren hamisphere after all.

BTW one of them, for example is getting stroke victims talking again and has very good reults with cerebral palsy

he also said that the qi here is very good

thanks again for the pics