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This has been great guys, thank you again to all for your insights.
Fajin, I have a question, i’ve been to Fred’s site, he has an offer for about 81US for his new 500 pg book, and the 2nd edition of raw foods, should I purchase this, or should I just get the raw foods secret book?
Hi Mat,
I do agree that everyone is different and they all have certain conditions, which is what Chinese medicine aims at. Although, most raw food diets are silly. Believe me, I took a TCM approach and Ayurveda approach as well and I know what they are all about, they are excellent. Fruit diets with dark leafy greens can and will cure any problem you have and are meant for everyone, they beat TCM to it. You might think I am stubborn with this but I will explain.
What didn’t work for you, mat, was that most raw foods are frozen in grocery markets and they DO make you colder, not to mention the fact that people store them in refrigerators, which is a BIG no-no. You don’t need a refrigerator, that saps the biophotons out of fruits/greens and makes them very cooling. Drink many warm beverages too, like green tea. When fruits are eaten fresh, they won’t be cooling. Look at food combining as well, one of the biggest stressors on the spleen, and it requires lots of digestive enzymes if you don’t combine foods properly. Eat in the right balance and not too often during the day is another pointer.
You were thinner and weaker because you probably didn’t get enough calories from your diet, a common mistake on raw food dieters. Frederic Patenaude has a raw plan for athletes. With qigong supplemented, you don’t need as much calories, and you won’t get skinny. Overall, there can be many reasons why you got thinner and weaker if you don’t have a PROPER raw food diet, this is the big mistake. On a raw food diet, you have to know what you are doing. The enzymes from raw foods don’t do anything, that’s not what makes them so good. You have to really read into it and study it, if you want to do it. Don’t look at the bogus raw food diets going around now.
I agree, everyone is different and so you should experiment with RAW foods to see which is the best RAW diet. Remember, fruits have different colours which attunes to the five elements and acid/alkaline attunes to yang/yin. I suggest that anyone who goes into raw diets, reads alot on it before beginning. You need lots of knowledge on your body, and what the food will do to your body. So, go to an iridologist, TCM doctor, or someone who can look at your overall constitution, then learn about what EXACTLY the fruit/fruits will do to you and make your CHOICE about what fruits to eat.
Look at Frederic Patenaude’s book, he will blow you away with all the garbage raw fads out there, he outlines what it is, and what it is not.
Regards,
FajinHello beyondthoughts,
I really don’t know much about his 2nd edition book because I didn’t purchase it. But I’m pretty sure that since it improves on the first book, it must be better. Although, it depends on to how much you care about this, wether this is really important to you. If it is very important, go for it. If you want to try the raw food diet, try it, experiment. I personally believe that it is superior when you know what you’re doing, if you don’t then you’re heading into a cave without a flashlight.
My best advice to you is what Sun Tsu said, “Know yourself and know your enemy.” In this case, know as much as you can about yourself from a TCM perspective and a western med. perspective and learn as much as you can about the food (the enemy) that is going into your mouth. What it is, how much protein, vitamins, minerals, etc. does it have, how much you need. Do you have a heart qi deficiency? Then eat red fruits or blue fruits for kidneys, etc.
Knowledge is power. Learn as much as you can and read many books and don’t be afraid to experiment until you find what works for you as mat said. Of course, I say experiment with only RAW foods. You can undo any damage you do to your body, anything is reversible, nothing is impossible.
Regards,
FajinFaj,
I accept your point that there is indeed a correct way to eat raw food. I won’t go back to exclusive/majority raw yet, if ever, unless I can get it right. I’ll check out the link you mentioned.
btw, I did not refrigerate most of my food, and it was organic/and/or home grown.
Agin. it’s all about getting it right. Glad it worked for you.
I noticed you mentioned tachyon engery in a another post.
I’ve been using tachyon tools/products for over 5 years. The silica disks are very good for many applications, not the least of which is to harmonise distored EMFs which blast us from our computer screens.
I’ve used most of their internal products as well. The high price not withstanding, I would recomend the blue green agae above all else. The single best supplement I have ever used.
btw, I know you told Bagua not to call you Faj, but you’ll have to forgive me, here in Australia we shorten EVERYTHING, names included. (except when we say “maaaaaate” – mGood day mat,
I remember Nnonnth (from England) saying something about you being from Australia, yes. Btw, I’m from Canada, quite far from you. You can call me Faj, no problem. To Bagua, I just asked him why he was calling me Fajie and not Faj or Fajin. It’s Fajie that I didn’t understand what it was indicating.
Again, no need to place such a HUGE emphasis on nutrition when you’ve atleast opened the orbit because then you can start working on accumulating qi from the earth, stars, sun, etc. to supplement. But, I recommend that if you have the money and you are interested, go for the book, it’s the best raw foods book out there, you won’t be disappointed. Science will get to the bottom of it soon and people will throw away the ovens and other devices used to cook food is what I think.
Anyway, I also think that because Atlantis/Lemuria were in the area around the equator where it was very warm, people in the ancient cultures from Atlantis like Maya, Egypt, etc. didn’t have a problem with body temperature. If you’ve read Dr. Jwing, Ming Yang’s book, “The Root of Chinese Qigong”, then you’ll see that people were meant to live on the equotor because living on the north pole, the upper dantian is more nourished and the south pole, the lower dantian is more nourished from magnetism, while the equator is complete harmony.
It appears this is why black people have more healthy reprodcutive systems (longer penis, bigger sperm count) while the northern folk in England or Russia, etc. usually have stronger brain power. On the equator, it naturally re-balances you and many people have been recommended by their doctors to go there to cure cancer and such. My reason for saying this is that on the equaotor when people lived with nature, they just took from the tree and ate without any worries about cooling effect from food.
Another thing is that I am not effected by this much seeing that I am a very advanced martial artist with an extremely powerful lower dantian and have been practicing Tibetan Dumo in the past, so I have no problems there. On the other hand, it does seem like a good idea if the average man was to strengthen his kidneys and not have unregulated sex, which he does not know about, while eating raw foods so as not to get more cooling from weak kidneys.
When I mentioned tachyon, I was referring to the unique thing about Michael’s alchemy to shape the life force into what you want it to become which is characteristic of tachyon energy into stepping down on the physical plane from the subtle cyclical time. Using yi you can use your free will to the utmost rather than naturally allowing things to manifest which doesn’t take advantage of the tachyon field because it requires that inner desire which allows you the CHOICE to do what you want. This is TRUE FREEDOM.
The term Michael uses, communicating with the life force or having better communication with the life force is like saying being a stronger magnet to the tachyon field, ie. attracting more tachyon particles, or manifesting them into what you want it to become on this physical plane. But yes, tachyon products are also effective, I use them as well not on myself because everything is already in the coorect frequency (like earth qi) for me to transform into my body and so I found it doesn’t help much, but I use them on other things like fruits or computers then ingest/use them.
As Bagua says, “Smiling in the Tao,”
Fajinhi Fajin,
Thank you once again for your reply, and for sharing your great insights. You said you are in Canada, are you from Toronto, Ontario Canada, or nearby by any chance? If so, do you know anyone with the last name, Law? I use to go to a high school with a chemistry science teacher who we called Mr. Law, he was definately highly disciplined in martial arts, acupunture etc. I just had a feeling that perhaps you may know him?
The Healing with Whole Foods book arrived, and I never knew it was so large! It is about 700 pages packed with overwhelming information. I just only had a breif glance at it, and it seems to be very thorough on healhy living and eating. Thank you again for recommending this book. I’m currently extremely low on budget as a student, and without a job. So i’m planning to get Fred’s book much later when I get a better understanding of myself, and after going through Healing with Whole Foods.
Fajin, what is the best way to do a health analysis on the mind, body and soul. I know I can go to my local family doctor, but he will just do all the bs checkup, and give prescribed medication. I’m trying to find a way or a method for self diagonsis on the health of the mind, body and soul.
How do you go about checking if you are a warm, or cold person? and what body parts are in need of healing etc. I feel I need to understand where I’am in order to know where to go, but thats the exact trouble I’am having right now. Someone recommended consulting your Shen? I’am assuming thats the higher self, Overself, etc. I’m a complete new beginner to the philosophy and practices of the Tao, and things related, so its quite difficult getting a grasp on things. What inspired me to get on this whole spirtual journey was some life changing events, its related to all that talk we had about dracos etc. I’m trying to figure out where I’am at by trying to know my own being, and health through mind, body and soul. Is there a method, book, resource, or place which you can recommend for a check up?
TCM, what exactly does that stand for and mean?
and do you have an e-mail address I can contact you by?
Thanks again for your time, and for sharing your knowledge and experiences. It has been a tremendous help.
=)
Hello beyondthoughts,
I live in Vancouver, B.C. and I don’t know any chemistry teacher named Mr. Law. I’m sure he sounds like an interesting individual. There is something wrong with my e-mail right now, but I’ll be sure to hand my e-mail over to you sometime if you really want it. You can discuss any issues on this board though, and I’m sure someone can give you a hand, no need for e-mails unless it’s for another reason. I can help to point you to the direction, but you must walk there.
To do a self-analysis, go to a TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) doctor and he will tell you what your problems are and what to do about them. I really don’t place such a big emphasis on self-diagnosis and “healing” with foods because your qi will do that once you open the microcosmic orbit. So, for you, I would recommend that you buy Michael’s Chi Kung Fundamentals #1 and #2.
The three treasures are jing (your essence, like hormones from kidneys), qi (vital life force), and shen (spirit). Consulting your shen is another way of saying talking to your vital organ spirits or “spirit guide”. Start by practicing fundamentals 1 and you’ll learn this with the inner smile to transform your emotions and your health. Then go on to fundamentals 2 and open the orbit, once you do that, all your health problems will be gone as the two major vessels of the body become open and filled with qi.
Through your qigong practice, which really gets effortless and blissful later with diligent practice and discipline in the beginning, you will be more aware of changes within your body and better understand yourself and conditions you have. You’ll start becoming aware of the health of your organs, know wether you are warm/cold, etc. Just practice, practice, practice, all illness is as a result of an imbalance of qi, just circulate and remove any stagnation, with the microcosmic orbit. I would recommend that you buy Michael’s material before anything else, the fundamentals 1 and 2 package.
The Dao is a long and fun journey and you will have many experiences on the way, the key is practice and you’ll get it. Talk does not cook the rice.
If you need anything more, just ask!
All the best,
FajinThank you dear friend for your help, I will definately look into Michael’s fundamental practices.
=)
Greetings,
I also live in Vancouver. Who do you train Taiji with? I have done taiji and bagua with Liang Shou yu and Victor Fu, also Diane Kehoe, but am currently studying something else (Bei Kuen), and have done michael’s alchemy for five years.
Speaking of extreme diets, I lived on wheat, wheatgrass and clay only for three years, and had more bodymass than I do currently on semi vegetarian cooked food, although I think it (the grass diet) caused some imbalances. Interesting discussion on raw food, I love to eat raw greens, and sometimes make sprouts when I have time.
I’ve found it!… The corresponding food to the five elements and organs located at http://wingmakers.co.nz/Meridian%20Organs%20And%20Meridian%20Foods.html
Meridian Organs And Meridian Foods
Food For ThoughtIntroduction
As we all known the human body is made up mainly off water and to ensure we maintain of healthy body and energy system it is important that we supply the human body with water or the water meridian as it is known the the wingmaker. but on the other side of the coin what about the other meridians and the meridian organs are they not important to.See the all the foods that we eat carry energy some bad and some good
never the same the energy of food helps maintain healthy organs, mind, and body. but how do we know which foods are good and which are bad.
take the old saying five plus a day. Five fruit or vegetables a day that is this is ok but what if we only supply half the meridian organs with much need meridian energy that we find in food. isn’t this is the bad habit that if we continue with over long periods of time. wouldn bring about dysfunction in the other organs of the body that lack the meridian energy. And would this cause health problem’s in those areas were the organs vibrational energy is lower and there is an inefficiency in the organs of that meridian. see it is important to reciver a good balance of meridian energy to ensure good health. So what we are going to do here is look at the different foods and how there inpact on the human body and the human energy system. Food for thought wouldn’t you agree?Foods of the Meridian
Earth Meridian foods
Root Vegatables, Carrots, parsnip, turnips, potatoes, and all the other types of food that come from the earth.Earth Meridian Organs
Stomach Meridian
Paired Organ : Spleen
Physical Branches : Muscles, lips, mouth, saliva
Functions digestion : absorption of postnatal energy
Meridian energy : Earth
Chakra : First/ Base ChakraSpleen-Pancreas
Paired Organ : Stomach
Physical Branches : Muscles, lips, mouth, saliva, lymphatic system
Functions : Cleanses and ‘modifies’ the blood
Meridian energy : Earth
Chakra : First/ Base ChakraWater Meridian Foods
Water, Mineral Water, Seafood, and Fish and all the other foods that come from the sea.Water Meridian Organs
Bladder
Paired Organ : Kidneys
Physical Branches : autonomous nervous system
Functions : stores and eliminates urine
Meridian energy : Water
Chakra : Second ChakraKidney
Paired Organ : Bladder
Mental Qualities : fear, paranoia
Physical Branches : ears, bones, urine, head and pubic hair, brain, marrow
Functions : stores prenatal essence, filters the blood
Meridian energy : Water
Chakra : Second ChakraFire Meridian Foods
Fire Meridian Organs
Heart Mind
Paired Organ : Small Intestine
Physical Branches : blood, tongue, throat, sweat, facial complexion, adrenals, thyroid, prostate, pituitary
Functions : pulse/circulation, house of the spirit
Meridian energy : Fire
Chakra : Third ChakraSmall Intestine
Paired Organ : Heart
Physical Branches : blood, tongue, throat, sweat, facial complexion
Functions : absorbs nutrients, digestion and elimination
Meridian energy : Fire
Chakra : Third ChakraNature Meridian Foods
Leafy Green vegatables, Celery, Cabbage,Wheat, Grains, Brown and white rice, Pumkin, Beans, and peas just to name a fue. and all of the other foods that come form the land.Nature (Wood) Meridian Organs
Gallbladder
Paired Organ : Liver
Mental Qualities : resentment
Physical Branches : eyes, tendons, tears, nails
Functions : stores and excretes bile, one of the Six Extraordinary Organs
Meridian energy : Nature
Chakra : Fourth Chakra
LiverPaired Organ : Gallbladder
Physical Branches : eyes, tendons, tears, nails
Functions : stores the blood, governs the free flow of qi
Meridian energy : Nature
Chakra : Fourth ChakraEther (Metal) Meridian Foods
Good old Fresh Air,Ether Meridian Organs
Lungs
Paired Organ : Large Intestine
Physical Branches : nose, skin, body hair, mucus
Functions : accepts pure fluids from spleen, which are then mixed with air, and circulated through the meridians, circulates
Meridian energy : Ether
Chakra : Fifth ChakraLarge Intestine
Paired Organ : Lungs
Physical Branches : nose, skin, body hair, mucus
Functions : absorption of fluids, elimination of solid wastes
Meridian energy : Ether
Chakra : Fifth ChakraAnd as they say five plus a day or as it should be said Five Meridians Plus A Day will ensure good health in the meridian organs and a good vibartional flow of energy in the human energy system.
preparation of foods is also important because there are many different away of preparing food some good and some not so good.
Grilling
Grilling food drys the food out and breaks down the balance of the meridian energy.
Baking
Can be good for meats if the meat is placed of a rack so that the fat can run free of the meat and the meridian energy holds to gether better if the meat id cooked slowly.
Boiling
Boiling vegatable is not so good for the meridian energy because you end up boiling the goodness out of the vegatable and you over load the vegatable with energy from the water meridian.
Streaming
Streaming foods is the best way to protect the meridian energy of the food as it locks the energy into the food as it is cooking.And remember organic foods are always best because they hold a higher vibration then theated foods.
Information from http://wingmakers.co.nz/Meridian%20Organs%20And%20Meridian%20Foods.html
http://wingmakers.co.nz/Meridian%20Organs%20And%20Meridian%20Foods.html
Hope This Helps.
The Human body has many elements of the other animals that your biology evolved from, and shows that basic core evolution is real. You are a combination of much of earths past. That means your diversity is at the top of the laddervery high.The real issue here is that many try to make diet issues generic for all Humanity. However, you are all very different, not only chemically, but energetically. Therefore the studies of diet based on blood types, birth months, and even energy fields are valid. The truth is this: Find the diet that suits these unique things about you and use them. Dont make the mistake of believing that what you discover for you is for everyone. This also goes for eating meat. If all Humans decided not to eat meat, the Human race would suffer greatly since there isnt enough developed farmland to feed all of you.
There is appropriateness in everything you mentioned, including the raw elements, and even the kosher ones (originally developed intuitively so that youd stay away from diseased food). But it isnt for everyone. The solution will eventually be to provide a test that will help you know what is best for each Human diet-wise, and then hold no judgment of others who have a different solution. These tests are actually here, but they havent been combined yet. Its another feature of your constant linearity and compartmentalization that within your science you have sequestered pieces and parts of the solution and given them all important names, as though each one was the final solution or a final system. The truth is that they must be combined.
Therefore, find the diet that works for the individual Human, and dont place a generic label on studies you find that work for you. Theyll work for those like you, but not for all. Start with the blood types, then move to other unique features that make you all very different
Look up Eat Right For Your Type or “Blood Type Diet”Thank you Dog for your feedback. Eat Right For Your Type or “Blood Type Diet” was part of the research used in the Body Ecology Diet Book http://BodyEcologyDiet.com and was listed in the Bibliography in the back of the book. I wanted to share more info I found at http://wingmakers.co.nz/Meridian%20Organs%20And%20Meridian%20Foods.html regarding the Five Elements and Five Organs And Diet it is very interesting…
Meridian Organs And Meridian Foods
Food For Thought
Introduction
As we all known the human body is made up mainly of water and to ensure we maintain of healthy body and energy system it is important that we supply the human body with water or the water meridian, as it is known to the wingmaker. But on the other side of the coin what about the other meridians and the meridian organs are they not important to.
See the all the foods that we eat carry energy some bad and some good
never the same the energy of food helps maintain healthy organs, mind, and body. But how do we know which foods are good and which are bad?
Take the old saying five plus a day (Five fruit or vegetables a day that is). This is ok. But what if we only supply half the meridian organs with much needed meridian energy that we find in food? Isn’t this a bad habit if we continue with it over long periods of time? Wouldnt this bring about dysfunction in the other organs of the body that lack the meridian energy? And would this cause health problem’s in those areas were the organs vibrational energy is lower and there is an inefficiency in the organs of that meridian? See, it is important to receive a good balance of meridian energy to ensure good health. So what we are going to do here is look at the different foods and how there impact on the human body and the human energy system. Food for thought wouldn’t you agree?
Foods of the Meridian
Earth Meridian foods
Root Vegetables, Carrots, parsnip, turnips, potatoes, and all the other types of food that come from the earth.
Earth Meridian Organs
Stomach Meridian
Paired Organ: Spleen
Physical Branches: Muscles, lips, mouth, saliva
Functions digestion: absorption of postnatal energy
Meridian energy: Earth
Chakra: First/ Base Chakra
Spleen-Pancreas
Paired Organ: Stomach.
Physical Branches: Muscles, lips, mouth, saliva, lymphatic system.
Functions: Cleanses and ‘modifies’ the blood.
Meridian energy: Earth
Chakra: First/ Base Chakra.
Water Meridian Foods
Water, Mineral Water, Seafood, and Fish and all the other foods that come from the sea.
Water Meridian Organs
Bladder
Paired Organ: Kidneys
Physical Branches: autonomous nervous system.
Functions: stores and eliminates urine.
Meridian energy: Water.
Chakra: Second Chakra.
Kidney
Paired Organ: Bladder.
Mental Qualities: fear, paranoia
Physical Branches: ears, bones, urine, head and pubic hair, brain, marrow.
Functions: stores prenatal essence, filters the blood.
Meridian energy: Water.
Chakra: Second Chakra.
Fire Meridian FoodsFire Meridian Organs
Heart Mind.
Paired Organ : Small Intestine.
Physical Branches : blood, tongue, throat, sweat, facial complexion, adrenals, thyroid, prostate, pituitary.
Functions: pulse/circulation, house of the spirit.
Meridian energy: Fire.
Chakra: Third Chakra.
Small Intestine.
Paired Organ: Heart.
Physical Branches: blood, tongue, throat, sweat, facial complexion.
Functions: absorbs nutrients, digestion and elimination.
Meridian energy: Fire.
Chakra: Third Chakra.
Nature Meridian Foods
Leafy Green vegetables, Celery, Cabbage, Wheat, Grains, Brown and white rice, Pumpkin, Beans, and peas just to name a few. and all of the other foods that come from the land.
Nature Meridian Organs
Gallbladder
Paired Organ: Liver.
Mental Qualities: resentment.
Physical Branches: eyes, tendons, tears, nails
Functions: stores and excretes bile, one of the Six Extraordinary Organs.
Meridian energy: Nature.
Chakra: Fourth Chakra.
Liver.
Paired Organ: Gallbladder.
Physical Branches: eyes, tendons, tears, nails.
Functions: stores the blood, governs the free flow of qi.
Meridian energy: Nature.
Chakra: Fourth Chakra.Ether Meridian Foods
Good old Fresh Air,
Ether Meridian Organs
Lungs
Paired Organ: Large Intestine.
Physical Branches : nose, skin, body hair, mucus.
Functions : accepts pure fluids from spleen, which are then mixed with air, and circulated through the meridians, circulates.
Meridian energy : Ether.
Chakra : Fifth Chakra.
Large Intestine
Paired Organ : Lungs.
Physical Branches : nose, skin, body hair, mucus.
Functions : absorption of fluids, elimination of solid wastes.
Meridian energy : Ether.
Chakra : Fifth Chakra.
And as they say five plus a day or as it should be said Five Meridians Plus A Day will ensure good health in the meridian organs and a good vibrational flow of energy in the human energy system.
Preparation of foods is also important because there are many different away of preparing food some good and some not so good.
Grilling
Grilling food dries the food out and breaks down the balance of the meridian energy.
Baking
Can be good for meats if the meat is placed of a rack so that the fat can run free of the meat and the meridian energy holds to gether better if the meat id cooked slowly.
Boiling
Boiling vegetable is not so good for the meridian energy because you end up boiling the goodness out of the vegetable and you over load the vegetable with energy from the water meridian.
Streaming
Streaming foods is the best way to protect the meridian energy of the food as it locks the energy into the food as it is cooking.
And remember organic foods are always best because they hold a higher vibration then heated foods.http://wingmakers.co.nz/Meridian%20Organs%20And%20Meridian%20Foods.html
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