Judgement

“Hey guys

Hi Emelgee, I am wondering how you are using the term “guys”. Do you use it as an androgynouos reference or is your question just to the men?

“wondering about this…
have been watching the barmy unfolding online and I was feeling quite upset to think that a board of people who I would consider to be “enlightened” could have a discussion that still could appear degenerate to such a degree of animosity.”

I suppose there is the tendency to want to believe that a website dedicated to self-cultivation and all the highest ideals would attract a group of people who would all tend to be that way. However, where there is light there is dark, and the need for the resolving of the tension between the two if we are to get to the goal of harmony. That duality exists in us all, and is the cause of our conversations about “men and women” which you mention in another message you would like to see us depart from in favor of discussing more universal things. We can’t entirely yet.
You are not wrong to think there is enlightened presence here. And certainly it comes in at a higher level than the average chat page. But people have their stuff to work out and this is a forum, like life is a forum, in which to cultivate. What one has choosen to cultivate in onesself is what one tends to write like, I believe Singing Ocean said recently. Very true. We can come together only from where we are and we incur the reactions/interactions which that provokes. We are always facing ourselves, our reflections. When we chose to understand that this is so, we are able to merge with instead of argue against what is being said because then we are not in reaction/resistance. This takes will and clarity. One has to “want to.” One has to be willing to feel what is really going on inside and not fight it off, run away from it or project it on others, which happens habitually in society.
We see a microcosm of that here too. When Max wants Singing Ocean to provide him with evidence from his writing that he is being negative or dominant, he wants that because he is not feeling his deepest feelings (about himself) which literally construct the tone of what he is writing. The anger and dissatisfaction are obvious – but only if he were able to feel the underlying feelings. These things come from judgments we are making upon ourselves first and then projecting out to others. All of us do this. If we weren’t making judgments, we’d be living in a vastly different world.
Your disappointment is from your judgment/expectation, but obviously also comes from a part of you that wants more from all of us, including yourself. If you are a practitioner of alchemy then you can take whatever comes up inside yourself and work with it, purify it, refine the energies you are handed and get peaceful, and you will thereby be doing everyone here a service and can be contributing to the “upgrading” of the quality of our interactions. Although it is tough sometimes to stand clear in the presence of lower vibes, it’s a responsibility to do so. Maybe you could initiate in another direction when you don’t like the direction things are going in.

Beyond this subject- I was waiting for your reply to my question from a while ago about what you thought of Pietro’s discourse on love and lust. Did you decide not to spend time on it? Or did you get frightened away? (evil cackle).

Blessings, Alexander

Note to Max- Please believe that I do not judge you in using your conversation with Singing Ocean as an example. I support you in your process as I hope you support me in mine. -A

Emelgee, I don’t want you to entertain me nor do I expect you to talk for all women, and it doesn’t have anything to do with you specifically. Like I said, I just want more women to involve themselves here for balance. My desire comes purely from wanting a community feeling to be present. Blessings, Alexander