Lama Dorje info aka Max on Tao Bums

… he’s done alot of stuff, and if he’s mastered it all, hats off! j

I’ve already been to this party- I studied with Max about five years ago.

The video on the website is NOT of max. I am frankly skeptical of the “bounce” power demonstrated – this kind of thing I have seen demonstrated in the past required students who are highly entrained with the teacher/projecting person. i.e. if they were attacked by a martial artist who is well rooted, and not a student, it would simply not work. I’d need to see it tested that way to believe it. Max definitely did not demonstrate this ability when I studied with him.

The info on the site about Max does not exactly match the biographical information he gave me. Its a slightly shifted story, as if he doens’t want people really investigating his past, or is ambivalent about coming public, and he clearly was ambivalent when I studied with him. I get the sense he is being pushed out by some “packagers”, maybe the people putting the film out….

That being said, I like Max a lot, and he knew a lot of interesting Taoist and Bon practices – but neither I nor Ron Diana, who I invited to study with him as well,felt he had any extraordinary powers at the time. Of course things could change. But I notice also that the list of practices taught on his website is quite incomplete – he is hiding his main practices, some of which he did teach me and which he considers to be for oral tranmission only.

I’d be interested to hear a report from someone checking out his current teachings. I think he could bring in some fresh chi into the scene that is not hung up on lineage isues (problem with most chinese teachers). I found max to be a reasonably humble guy, even a bit insecure about his identity. I couldn’t understand why he was hiding behind the Lama title as it didn’t really reflect hs core Taoist orientation.

michael

Don’t you think he might be attemting to set up a monopoly on subtle energy practices? i.e. “Only practice MY take on alchemy”

>>luke rules<<

… could you possibly expand on what you mean just a TINY bit? 🙂 🙂 🙂

PWEEEASE!? ^_^

love j

The question does not have a fixed answer. If you look at the list of practices Max offers, he obviously mixes practices and has done so his whole life. It moe important for beginners to not mix practices, they have no ground of their own and each practice shifts their center.

if you are at the level of practicing kan and li, you should have a strong enough center to evaluate any new practice and to ask your inner sage whether this variation of kan and li is useful to you or not. and if so, how so.

remember, the nature of alchemical work is experimental, and prescriptions to do it in a fixed way are mostly designed to get someone to do the practice long enough to get its effect.

If you are really worried about his threat of it being “detrimental to your health”, then you should not go, you are not ready to explore it.

I encourage opening up alchemical practices so they get refined in teh collective cauldron – but only the strong players wil really have the skill to integrate different methods. Max’s version of kan and li look pretty simple to me, but simple can be good if there is a nice transmission withit. How will anyone ever know if they can safely mix a practice, unless they first expose themselves to it?

But you need to empty your mind of all the hype on the video on the website. Most of max’s practices that I learned – about a dozen – did not interest me and I discarded. Only one did I find useful. Too many forms become baggage, every adept needs to develop a series of practices that integrate with each other. That is what I have been doing for years – adding in refinements that serve the principles and methods of the primary path of development in the 7 alchemy formulas. But everyone will do that in their own way, andmay discover new ways to improve them.

hope this helps.
michael

ps.

I am off to Stonehenge where I will be introducing a new practice that integrates with previous kan and li practices, but has developed from an idea I got from an outside practice and worked it over for a few years until I finally saw a totally new application of it – a down load not from any other lineage but from my deep self. I asked for the method, and it came shortly thereafter. My postnatal mind couldn’t get it by itself, though it knew what it wanted.

That is experimental alchemical work – this new practice is a fantastic addition to lesser kan and li. But it never would have haappened if I had listened to the lineage warning that the original practice should never be mixed with any other practice.

Roadsigns are there for your safety, but when the driving conditions and your skill are sufficient, you can safely speed to get to where you are going more quickly.

That does help. I’ll go and trust my “inner sage” to figure out how or whether to integrate the practices. Thanks for taking the time to respond. 🙂