Nei Gong, what is it?

>>>”Understanding one’s true nature”
>>>What is your True Nature, you direct understanding?

Too difficult to convey in words.

If pressed, I say a mixture of curiosity and love.

Turn about is fair play, so what is *your* True Nature,
your direct understanding? Quid pro quo.

S

>>>Sorry my friend, I missed ya on that.
>>>Can you tell me what a Taoist Immortal is?
>>>Do you know any and if yes can you tell us
>>>who he/she is or they are?
>>>Or is it based on books and theories and a kinda fantasy?

I actually gave you a much better answer than a personal statement,
which you may or may not believe and only generates
doubt. If I were to tell you that there are, in fact,
actual living Taoist immortals . . . living amongst us–rare
though they be–what would your response be? Most
likely, it would be nothing but doubt, and ever increasing
requests for subsequent information to verify the claim.
Ultimately, this is not helpful.

Direct experience is a much more meaningful
and trustworthy teacher. If you can not trust yourself,
you will not be able to trust others.

Personal stories can be interesting though.
I see that Wendy has a personal story to share . . .

S

Steven, I looked for the post but I can’t find it either, lost in the mist of past times…

I am willing to explain most of its process but it would take a more extended reply and it is 2 am for me. So if you are interested I can create the story in another thread, tomorrow.

As for your other question:
I had a very intense deep ‘inner – out of my body’, still not sure, where I was, might have been very deep deep inside my own dungeons, might have been way out of my body. Anyways this was my initial starting point in my search for a grounding practice which I found in the Healing Tao at that time, some 18 years ago.

I did the Basic several times intensly, committed to ground myself in myself, I think I had been taken Fusion 1,2,3 and maybe bone marrow by that time too. I always had difficulty with time, to reconstruct time and events. Only very very recently I am trying to reconstruct those years and events.

So the immortal event happened in Switserland with Michael as teacher, he was teaching an advanced basic, I think. He might remember.
So to be short, I was a duckling, had bodywork experience and intense basic HT material.

And yes Steven, this was the foreshadow of more 🙂 you are wise 😉
I unwillingly found the button of the magic box.

Immortality is a process. The process is simple, first there is no other no god or pretty girls, then you realize there is another you feel the sexual tension to start humping and with enough trust and skill you again realize there is no other and your back to stage one just at a more expand conscious/embodiment and a larger responsibility. This is often also called mini deaths in some tradtitions. This just repeats over and over.Inner Alchemy just speeds the process. The term immortality might go to the way side, but the concepts of expanding consciousness is well rooted in the west although some times they still can not get past that there is no other when it comes to the body. If that makes since. Hope this was help full. Seems like you got some stuff on your mind. Hopefully it is not a monkey. 🙂

I almost forgot . . . Michael posted this in the e-newsletter
a few months ago, which not only addresses your question directly,
but describes–in detail–his direct experiences.

If his detailed experiences and Wendy’s story aren’t sufficient
to satisfy the question in your mind, then I defer once again to what
I suggested earlier–namely through your own cultivation and
period of self-cultivation you come to understand either the
truth or falsity of it for yourself. This is why I said that
it’s easier to get the truth from your own perspective rather
than from the stories of others, which bring doubt. I wasn’t
trying to be arrogant; just stating what is likely to bring
you a more satisfying answer.

At any rate, here is a clipping from Michael’s E-newsletter
he sent back in February:

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re Immortals Real?
by Michael Winn

Beyond language issues, the question of archetypal differences in psyche must also be asked: can Westerners connect to Chinese immortals? This topic is best approached by subjective testimony. As a teacher who has taught over 75 week-long neidan retreats, I can report numerous instances where meditators felt they had interactions with divine beings who assumed human form, many explicitly Chinese in appearance.

One woman reported an internal experience of a Chinese man repeatedly pressing her to marry or merge with him, claiming he was an immortal. When she finally surrendered, she underwent a powerful spiritual awakening. Another man, long suffering from negative side effects of wrong internal practice, reported a Chinese-looking immortal visited him and began healing his condition. Perhaps the most dramatic encounter is my own, which explains my path:

In March 1981, a few months after meeting Mantak Chia, I had just begun to practice neidan. I was a journalist, staying in the Addis Ababa Hilton in Ethiopia, finishing a story on Black Jews. My next job was to spend a night inside the Great Pyramid. Before I flew to Egypt, I suddenly became nauseous, with regular bouts of diarrhea. This went on for three days and nights, preventing me from eating any food. My body got so hot I often had to jump into a cold shower.

Strangely, I did not feel sick—only that my body was going through the motions of illness. I went to a hospital for blood tests, but nothing was wrong. By the third afternoon I lay on my bed exhausted but fully awake. My hotel room suddenly began to slowly spin. The furniture and walls began to soften and flow in a large vortex around me. An ancient looking Chinese man in a long robe appeared from nowhere, floating above me as if riding on a cloud. He had a long wispy white beard, and eyes that strangely seemed to be looking inward at himself. His skin was so wrinkled I remember thinking, this guy must be 2000 years old!

Speechless, I watched as a laser beam of a dense white light shot out of his navel and into mine. The light felt highly charged and totally solid upon contact. My body immediately exploded. Energy shot up my core and out my crown like the mushroom cloud above an atom bomb. I felt myself raining back down in tiny droplets that formed themselves into a body on the bed. The Chinese man disappeared into nowhere. I lay on the bed, feeling intense bliss, floating in a pool of divine love for hours. All symptoms of my illness disappeared. (Winn 2010)

Years later I investigated my amazing experience with the help of a full-trance channel for a Western immortal, who allegedly lived physically for 2,300 years in the time of Atlantis before ascending. He told me I had been purified by my guardian, a blind Daoist immortal named Jingmingzi as a kind of “medical checkup” before being allowed to spend a night inside the Great Pyramid.

At the time of my experience, I had absolutely no belief in immortals. I had never read descriptions nor seen any image of one. It was impossible for me to project the experience out of previous mental impressions. The explanation of this Western immortal felt correct. I now have absolutely no doubt that immortals are real. Later, I would have many communications with beings I felt were immortals, but never again did they appear in human form.

Always self therapy.
As one gets skill,
inner practise becomes outer.

Not because one affects with others.
But because one cultivates ones greater space.
Which said other has come to occupy. Which gives legitimacy and keeps choice in the practice.

So theraphy others, yes, but only when this is self work on greater scale.
Otherwise it could be called consumption of karma.

Unless one already leaks, will keep leaking, and in process of reverse psycology
is gathering merit points.

Or one is just spending.
Free world.
In any application.