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>>>Our mind (depends how is is understood) is more that our
>>>thoughts and the intellect process. Tao and Chan is a lot
>>>about how we observe, smell, feel, hear. Can we shift our
>>>awareness to them without judgement, without the conscious
>>>forcing to create something? Lao Zi clearly presents: to create
>>>distinctions is the root of much of humanities problems (self-made suffering).Not unlike the distinction you are making
between my use and your use of the word “mind”. 😉>>>If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming,
>>>allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step
>>>is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears.
>>>Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment
>>>process. And a kind of freedom appears.One can be non-attached, but still choose by free choice.
This *is* the definition of freedom: choice.S
Hi SD 🙂
>>>As you know.
>>>People see what happens after death wery differently.
>>>To put it shortly:
>>>Some think that after death ewerything is darkness,
>>>or more rightly the counsciousness has no information what so ewer.
>>>Others think that we will be some kind of ghosts
>>>perhaps somethimes just for awhile to take contact
>>>with near friends before we goes to the other side
>>>Some believes we go thrue a tunnel and are experimenting
>>>every important episode of our life, and perhaps also goes
>>>thrue some kind of moral judgement of what kind of live
>>>we have been living
>>>Some belive that the personal atman will be part
>>>of the wourld soul Bhraman
>>>Some belive that our soul will reincarnate into another being
>>>Some believe in imortality for some
>>>And also many other believes.
>>>What do you think?Why should I believe that death is inevitable?
Just because so many other people seem to have been created
with a structural defect that leads to their demise, does
not mean that I’ve been created with one. 🙂Therefore, I choose to believe that I will not die!
And since I haven’t died yet, I seem to be right so far. 🙂Yet, if I turn out to be wrong, then I’m sure
it will all work out for the best–no matter what the result.Things always work out for the best. Always.
Smiles,
StevenNot unlike the distinction you are making
between my use and your use of the word “mind”. 😉>>>If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming,
>>>allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step
>>>is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears.
>>>Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment
>>>process. And a kind of freedom appears.One can be non-attached, but still choose by free choice.
This *is* the definition of freedom: choice.
**************************There is a type of awareness that is not dependent on your thoughts or emotions, this is what I am pointing towards. If are in the woods observing the trees and animals and being in nature, our thoughts, emotions and ego are not dependent on this experiencing. Hopefully we can not only do this in the woods, but in our regular daily life. This experiencing has nothing to do with free choice, or lack of it. It seems many of us have gotten away from it.
We can be attached to our goals, desires, needs, etc, this takes us away from that aspect of ourself.
bg
Not unlike the distinction you are making
between my use and your use of the word “mind”. 😉>>>If one can ask the question, which judgements am I forming,
>>>allows one to see how their mind is working, the next step
>>>is focus on the terrain (awareness) which that process appears.
>>>Attuning to it frees one from the attachments to the judgment
>>>process. And a kind of freedom appears.One can be non-attached, but still choose by free choice.
This *is* the definition of freedom: choice.
**************************There is a type of awareness that is not dependent on your thoughts or emotions, this is what I am pointing towards. If are in the woods observing the trees and animals and being in nature, our thoughts, emotions and ego are not dependent on this experiencing. Hopefully we can not only do this in the woods, but in our regular daily life. This experiencing has nothing to do with free choice, or lack of it. It seems many of us have gotten away from it.
We can be attached to our goals, desires, needs, etc, this takes us away from that aspect of ourself.
bg
It seems to me that you not need to go a course in positive thinking. You
are indeed complete! But I´m shore you already know that, funny guy, but and serious!I myself believe in imortality to, but perhaps not to sertain about it for me, perhaps something to work about. I think more like if it happens, immortality, then I´m shore I will be able to deal with it!
SD
Your post has had me mulling for a couple of days…
I had those feelings before, but instead of love and
compassion, peacefulness and harmony were the states
I wanted to be in. There are so many external energies
that are not harmony and on top of that there are many
who actually get their energy by breaking others peace
and harmony.I tried putting on the glasses to help me
see that somewhere inside these people there was some
positive qualities that were just hidden. This worked
for a while, but eventually I came to the realization
that by doing this I was starting to live a pretend
life. I was constantly having to play mind games in
order to continue and not only that…..
I had to shut down my passion ie become detached in
order to continue. It felt terrible in my heart.Luckily at that time I had the opportunity to start my
own business. The keywords again for me were peace and
harmony. I work about 14 hours a day so this was a chance
to make my life all about harmony. I set myself up small
enough that I need no employees and therefore I did not
have to bend my values for the sake of making money. From
the beginning it was WAR. I had customers barging in
demanding that I do it their way but I would not budge.
Some days were just so awful that I would cry, I didn’t
want to go into another day of anger, ugly words (people
would say the most unbelievable things and I had to be
even uglier to make them go away and not come back).
But after crying I would quiet down and see that there
was no going back, I knew that the path I was taking
was not a mistake but would lead me to where I wanted
to be. After about 1.5 years, I noticed that my place
had become quite peaceful, my interactions with the customers
were harmonious. At the end of every night I am usually
saying: Tonight was so smooth, I hope every night is this
way (it generally is now). I even had customers saying
that they had watched me at war with those people and that
they respected the way that I handled it. Of course I
occasionally get the wayward person in, but it is easy
now. I am not bombarded anymore and it has become like
swatting a fly away.Throughout this whole time I had been doing practices
and I think that they helped immensely. In my outside
life I had to be the ultimate in ugliness in order to
bring beauty in. I had to really believe in my heart
that I DONT CARE IF EVERYONE HATES ME AND I GO OUT OF
BUSINESS I will not bend my beliefs.Removing those glasses made me dive right in to all I
fear and hate in life but at the end the passion that
has been released is unbelievable to me. I have never
felt so alive before.Sorry to blab on and on but you had me mulling.
Some people mistakenly think that
the way to being happy is to try
to control all outside events . . .
to make everything “go their way”.Since this is impossible, these are
some of the most unhappy people around.By setting boundaries, being assertive,
and not allowing them to control you,
you are not only showing love to yourself,
but you are showing them *real compassion*.
You are helping them to slowly wake up
to the fact that their strategy is futile.
Any nastiness on their part is their issue,
not yours. It only reflects how miserable
they truly are. This is where the true
love and compassion comes in, not in pretending
that their behavior is acceptable or that
they are “nice”.In other words, sometimes being friendly and nice
is not the compassionate response.S
>>>There is a type of awareness that is not dependent
>>>on your thoughts or emotions, this is what I am pointing towards.
>>>If are in the woods observing the trees and animals
>>>and being in nature, our thoughts, emotions and ego
>>>are not dependent on this experiencing. Hopefully we can
>>>not only do this in the woods, but in our regular daily life.
>>>This experiencing has nothing to do with free choice,
>>>or lack of it. It seems many of us have gotten away from it.
>>>We can be attached to our goals, desires, needs, etc,
>>>this takes us away from that aspect of ourself.We are having a miscommunication.
Upon living from this awareness, you have a choice with which
to respond to that which you experience. This is the choice
that I’m referring to.If you are not already at this level of awareness, any
choice you make is not truly a free choice. It is instead
something that is merely selected by reactivity; or some
preconceived idea of how you think things should be, rather
than how they in fact are.S
>>>There is a type of awareness that is not dependent
>>>on your thoughts or emotions, this is what I am pointing towards.
>>>If are in the woods observing the trees and animals
>>>and being in nature, our thoughts, emotions and ego
>>>are not dependent on this experiencing. Hopefully we can
>>>not only do this in the woods, but in our regular daily life.
>>>This experiencing has nothing to do with free choice,
>>>or lack of it. It seems many of us have gotten away from it.
>>>We can be attached to our goals, desires, needs, etc,
>>>this takes us away from that aspect of ourself.We are having a miscommunication.
Upon living from this awareness, you have a choice with which
to respond to that which you experience. This is the choice
that I’m referring to.If you are not already at this level of awareness, any
choice you make is not truly a free choice. It is instead
something that is merely selected by reactivity; or some
preconceived idea of how you think things should be, rather
than how they in fact are.S
I understand what you are saying and agree to a degree.
I think there is too much emphasis on free will and not free will, it has its purpose. That model still locks one into a certain way of living. I am pointing to a place inside all of us where our innate intelligence know what to do and how to respond. Ego and will is a tool of this aspect of ourselves, like you arms and legs.
We always are part of life, we have no choice in this. We can choose how we act at times and not so much in others. Do you choose to breathe? What I am offering is the essence of the Taoist insight is we are inseparable from life and we can attune to it and we will know how to respond, in this aspect of ourselves there is no need for will to accomplish something and no need to for the dynamic of free choice or not free. This free or not free is a creation of the ego and thoughts, we do not have nearly as much as some think. At some point is needs to be put in its proper place: that it is relevant for somethings and not for others. In fantasy we have lots of free choice.
bg
I understand what you are saying and agree to a degree.
I think there is too much emphasis on free will and not free will, it has its purpose. That model still locks one into a certain way of living. I am pointing to a place inside all of us where our innate intelligence know what to do and how to respond. Ego and will is a tool of this aspect of ourselves, like you arms and legs.
We always are part of life, we have no choice in this. We can choose how we act at times and not so much in others. Do you choose to breathe? What I am offering is the essence of the Taoist insight is we are inseparable from life and we can attune to it and we will know how to respond, in this aspect of ourselves there is no need for will to accomplish something and no need to for the dynamic of free choice or not free. This free or not free is a creation of the ego and thoughts, we do not have nearly as much as some think. At some point is needs to be put in its proper place: that it is relevant for somethings and not for others. In fantasy we have lots of free choice.
bg
I understand what you are saying and agree to a degree.
I think there is too much emphasis on free will and not free will, it has its purpose. That model still locks one into a certain way of living. I am pointing to a place inside all of us where our innate intelligence know what to do and how to respond. Ego and will is a tool of this aspect of ourselves, like you arms and legs.
We always are part of life, we have no choice in this. We can choose how we act at times and not so much in others. Do you choose to breathe? What I am offering is the essence of the Taoist insight is we are inseparable from life and we can attune to it and we will know how to respond, in this aspect of ourselves there is no need for will to accomplish something and no need to for the dynamic of free choice or not free. This free or not free is a creation of the ego and thoughts, we do not have nearly as much as some think. At some point is needs to be put in its proper place: that it is relevant for somethings and not for others. In fantasy we have lots of free choice.
bg
I understand what you are saying and agree to a degree.
I think there is too much emphasis on free will and not free will, it has its purpose. That model still locks one into a certain way of living. I am pointing to a place inside all of us where our innate intelligence know what to do and how to respond. Ego and will is a tool of this aspect of ourselves, like you arms and legs.
We always are part of life, we have no choice in this. We can choose how we act at times and not so much in others. Do you choose to breathe? What I am offering is the essence of the Taoist insight is we are inseparable from life and we can attune to it and we will know how to respond, in this aspect of ourselves there is no need for will to accomplish something and no need to for the dynamic of free choice or not free. This free or not free is a creation of the ego and thoughts, we do not have nearly as much as some think. At some point is needs to be put in its proper place: that it is relevant for somethings and not for others. In fantasy we have lots of free choice.
bg
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