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February 25, 2012 at 5:49 pm #39061
Hi,
sorry if this is an old topic, but I was wondering what taoist think of karma, I believe in what comes around goes around, but whether we are working out stuff from previous lives/incarnations, i’m not too sure about, any input would be helpful thxs ZT
February 26, 2012 at 6:48 pm #39062Hello zentao:
Interesting question. There are many traditions of Taoists, some indigenous, some are combinations of shaman, confucian, buddhist and every variation of them. I do not believe you will find one definitive answer that all traditions agree on. Indigenous chinese and early shaman believe the living and dead exist simultaneous, and the dead were more influential or powerful. They did not believe in reincarnation, that was a buddhist idea brought to China.
I suggest you search the internet and other sources on this topic, it is very relevant to how one views life and their spiritual practice.
Regards,
david
February 26, 2012 at 6:58 pm #39064Hello zentao:
Interesting question. There are many traditions of Taoists, some indigenous, some are combinations of shaman, confucian, buddhist and every variation of them. I do not believe you will find one definitive answer that all traditions agree on. Indigenous chinese and early shaman believe the living and dead exist simultaneous, and the dead were more influential or powerful. They did not believe in reincarnation, that was a buddhist idea brought to China.
I suggest you search the internet and other sources on this topic, it is very relevant to how one views life and their spiritual practice.
Regards,
david
February 28, 2012 at 12:57 pm #39066From what I’ve learned so far I know that one of the goals of the formulas to develop the immortal body/spirit (which Chia has brought to the west) is to “break the cycle of reincarnation” and to return to the Tao. Take from that what you will.
February 28, 2012 at 6:46 pm #39068Do you think the descriptions of the formulas were written two thousand years ago? Or that those formulas existed then? These are written by modern people.
February 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm #39070I did a serious research project about dream journaling..
created a set of tools to grab and organize info.. turned into encounters with recurring dreams
the people i had met five years+ earlier in these continuing scenes were the same age, directly related to the content, and wearing the same clothes as when I met them years later in waking life..
the dreams were a warning, which I had not registered.. they were showing me and I failed to listen.. this is why I was waking up tossing and turning and feeling like crap,
so the q’s:
1) how could these people be there?
2) how could they have clothes?
3) how could they match an age 5 years detached in time both physically and in meaningI’ll never forget the one wear I realized it was the Pope driving us around San Francisco.. I just needed to get to the Vatican.. and the underground lotus candle ponds
and finally, why when I questioned this did I arrive stargazing in a dream looking out in space from a house we always go to as a sanctuary seeing the way my waking life had existed to that point with a gate opening through distant star systems and a feeling that I might never come back if my mind was pulled through…
it was as if I was actually being pulled into a space so ancient from outside of time inside of a dream that I might never wake up to come back..
now all of this might sound stupid except that it really happened… and I remember vividly who I was in another life and how I saw into this life on the way in.. and how we come and go from the other side through dream/waking mental overlay
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