The Human Soul: What is it and does it exist in relation to TAO

>>I hope people do not judge them selves to harshly. I will just remind people that we are all healing, we all have our lessons.<<

And *I* hope that those who choose to teach know what they are teaching. j

>>Parents do there best… Best to remember we are all childeren of the life force<>Sometimes you think you know and then you get hit, the life force seems to always have lessons for use. The biggest room is the one for self improvement.<<

And when you are threatening a stripper with a sword, how are you self-improving exactly? When you hear of the dalai lama doing the same, let me know! He's been 'hit' pretty hard. So was Bardon come to that, concentration camp and nazi torture and all. Didn't hear of him doing any such thing. There is such a thing as respect and even dignity you know. 🙂

By the time you become a real teacher I think you must know how to *deal with the lessons* in a somewhat more graceful manner. That really is the point I'm making Dog. People on here are probably being 'hit' all the time. j

I took Kan and Li just this past summer, about 3 months ago. I would say that I took a relatively fast track to that point, doing the first level formula in about 18 months. I did dedicate quite a bit of time daily to the practice, so it didn’t feel like it was too fast. However, I also tend to want to rush things.

I would say that I came into the HT system ‘in crisis’. I had lost my way in the professional world and was generally feeling pretty lost. Finding qigong (Ken Cohen and John DuCane prior to HT) answered something deeeep inside. For as long as I can remember, I had an unspoken question that I had been seeking an answer to. Qigong is providing the means to find the answers to that question and to also ask more questions. I find it satisfying at a very deep level.

Lesser Kan and Li practice is taking a very different tack from my approach to the first formula. I find that this practice is very dense/complex. Moving into it and through it I want to go back and revisit certain of the other practices. In particular I am doing standing tree much more now than I did in the past, and the desire for it is coming from somewhere deep inside.

I’m finding the following hard to put into words, but doing Kan and Li has opened up a perspective on the previous practices and on myself – kind of like de-densifying or adding space between nodes of experience. I’m finding – very early stage – that I can move between the nodes in a certain way. If you find this description obtuse, I apologize.

So this is kind of a roundabout means to get back to part of the original thread. I guess for me right now, I would describe the ‘soul’ as a process or a perspective. An event, not a thing, nor a state. It’s the force that moves the water in the river and the perspective that we use, or that we are, to observe the river as it flows by.

-dolphin

“The ‘soul’ technically in magical parlance means those bodies which are not (*normally* ^_^) immortal – the lower 2, 3, or 4, depending on how you count. These are the mental astral and physical bodies of Bardon.”

Thanks for explaining this. There is a standard confusion between spirit and soul.

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>>Thanks for explaining this.<<

The confusion is one of language, this is what I mean to point out. In general people talk about the soul in very vague terms, it's my soul man, it's like soul music man… spiritual science is precised and means something specific, but the term is western and not chinese. j