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>>Ure helping me really this time, alot. THX.<>I’m not shore about your exact distinction betwean on top of crown or into head. It felt like the energy went into the head but I can’t really say if it went into the head on a deep level or not. It felt like it went in an inch or so not shore if it penetrated deeper. Why?<<
Well this is complicated but a short answer is because with some people there is stuck energy on the top of the head related to addictive personality and or difficulty in love. This was for sure the case with me; with alot of people I have seen what happens is that the energy stays on top of the head right at the crown but is not actually *inside* the head.
This is related to a spiritual centre that is right above the head, where some people will tend to store idealizations or things that they feel or want to believe are perfect. It can be a sexual image but not necessarily, what is for sure is that it is a thought in the mind that is being fed, and if it is fed jing then it is a sexual thought being fed. I've spoken to quite alot of people this happened to, both male and female. This may not be the case with you but perhaps so… if you have a feel around up there and it feels that above the head there is coldness then this area above the head is storing sexual energy to some extent. It is especially so if the energy feels like sexual jing, cold and quite thick. If you do the orbit you may be able to feel it up there.
When the personality thing is healed the energy will come back in to the head and you will have a proper energetic cycle for the sexuality. This happened to me and several people I know, but everyone was unique in the way that it happened. That's why I recommend self-enquiry in some way. I believe true spiritual progress and self-knowledge go together. Myself I prefer work with spirits and sigils for self-knowledge, but this is just 'my way', the way I happen to like it.
Of course none of this may apply to you at all… what is interesting is that you caught this energy move happening whilst you were asleep, indicating a subconscious part of you is at work. jason
yes u feels wiser this time. The last time you was a little bit a pain in the as to, but a interesting one though.
I come to think about two things when talking about the crown and the energy center above the head: one bad event and one good if we should evaluate.
Crown: I had a psychological breake down many years ago when broking with another girl. At this age I had illusions about life and wasn’t grounded at all. Much idealisation going on. I had also my first symtom with cold during this time. And big financial difficulties reading alot not looking at the financial part of life. During this crisis and total breakdown I started to paint for the first time in my life. I did paint with red color. Did nothing else for a few days. One of the four pictures was a face with a hole in the crown chakra. The whole crown was open and you could see right into the head. During this days I had a dream that told me to start studying the master program in enginering. The one I today do my master thesis work in. But something bad haven’t been solved on a spiritual or paychological level. I did work wery hard then for four years before my illness really gon bad. I could have killed myself during the worst cold actually. It was a nightmare lasting 1000 nights. and days to.
The other part I’m thinking about is when I did the exercises from Mantak Chias book “Awaken Healing Light of the tao”. I did this exercises some year ago. During this time I had my best energy experience ever. I was mixing the orgasmic energy with love and then this two put up together with the higher self energy center aboce the head. It felt amazingly good. Extraordinary. Like best sex best love and best spiritual feelings mixed all together. Nice! I only achived this a few time and doesn’t do the exercises now. Had big problems sitting still meditating for so long time beacase I often went wery cold and that was really unpleasent.
>>yes u feels wiser this time. The last time you was a little bit a pain in the as to, but a interesting one though.<<
Well talk to everyone around here and you will find I haven't changed completely. 🙂 🙂 🙂
You give me alot here to talk about, I hope other people have an opinion here also.
To do with the 'psychological breakdown', I think this is very relevant and I do think also that self-knowledge will help with this. Don't need to go very much in detail, the significance of the experience is obvious, eg. the painting, that would go with what I said before. It is quite common BTW that a painful experience will open up spiritual capablities, I call it the 'shamanic awakening effect'.
Obviously in those times you were very ungrounded and it seems to me now you are much more solid. Now is a time maybe to look at all those early experiences and flush them a bit more, heal them. I feel that with the 'awaken healing light' experience you had not enough… I want to say 'integrity' or 'congruity' the way an NLP person would… I mean, there was not enough of you *involved* to keep those orgasmic experiences going.
Or another way to say it, with a certain amount of unhealed pain it is hard to go into bliss and remain neutral or grounded. Feelings and sexuality were very on the surface with you so access to both sexual and spiritual energies were strong, but some of you still wants to stay away from the light. Then you can't 'go through with it'.
That can definitely be healed now, I think it will be the heart that may prove most important… I would like to add, I have those 'spiritual orgasm' experiences regularly and often now. (Do you get the nectar also?). To get them to stay and go beyond them it is necessary to heal, otherwise not all of you can join in if you like.
For the healing I would actually stick to what I said before. Long sitting is difficult for someone in your position but long moving forms might be a pleasure? I don't know, I just offer what I think. Even a short sitting session (5 mins twice/day) builds up neutrality and suddenly your sexuality is back… then you have to deal with the emotions and pain that you haven't dealt with though, you may need counselling or a friendly ear and certainly some way of self knowledge. Those 'spiritual orgasms' are very taoist and I think they show real potential for practices like that, the thing is that healing the emotions has got to go on also. I'm only giving you what works for me, so experimenting is up to you of course. You are right – it's important to stick with things when you have decided on them.
Myself, I found that pure neutral sitting reawakens everything. I combine it with other things too, ways of dissolving that I have found. But just feeling everything and then seeing what is moving and how is so important to me, without interfering. Things start to happen by themselves.
Good luck with all this! j
>>>>Well talk to everyone around here and you will find I haven’t changed ol: haven’t been in for a long time I guess I’ve got a honeymoncompletely. 🙂 🙂 🙂
>>>>>>lol: haven’t been in for a long time I guess I’ve got a honeymon.
Actully was out dancing with two girls yesterday and on my way home, not feeling particularly well I tried to meditate just by following the energy instead of mentally directing. It was quite nice. I did concentrate on the tan tien first and the the energy started in the micro c and I continued to follow and stay with the energy as long as untill it was movong by itself. Mostly it did go thrue the mc. Sometimes a little bit different paths. It self connected to the big dipper when staying at the crown. (Usually not do it counciously this days) But then even better when staying at the bubbling spring (macro c) i felt a spiral down and connection with the earth. A connection with the earth I seldom experience and really want to be able to do. Have experienced energy with earth practises just a few times. Easier for me up into heaven. So it made me happy. THX
Haven’t felt the nectar jet.
I have changed my practise a bit. Before I did some practise from several of Mantak Chias books at the same time. Now I following the same book as my yoga group. In a way it holds me back a little bit, in another way it’s more evolving beacase we are six fantastic peoples doing the exercises regularly and we have a god time and learn from eachother. Thats evolving to. And I also do my own practise parallell to the group practise. I think it works fine. In a few mounths we will continue with Yudeloves next book “Taoist Yoga and sexual energy”. In that one theres alot of fusion (1 I guess). Thats probably a practise that I will like alot. Have had the inner smile as the favorite practise when new at the system. Sometimes I feel I hold on to the basics for to long but other times I feel thats good to. Especially since I have problem with the grounding. During the practise of Healing light I had even dificulties to feel the tan tien, nowdays it’s wery easy. Have change my physical body with the Iron Shirt training in Yudeloves book, didn’t do much Iron shirt before beacase it was so difficult. Is more straight in the spine no and are able to get all the points into the wall. Have also done alot Hatha yoga this summer and is in the first time in my life able to bend with straight legs and touching my toes. Much is loosening up in the hips for the moment. The karete teacher did believe that I had been training karate before. That was nice beacase I have always been bad at sports, but since I started this system I’m much more physical. I have found the greatest interest in my life I guess in this working with the energies. The ladies/girls yesterday did also enjoy my dancing alot. I felt much more free in my movement beacase my hips are on their way to loosen up and I feel wery flexible. Don’t like to dance beacouse of the major sweating and gettong cold by it though. One of the girls is wery open with showing some of her sexuality (extrovert) and that was good for me to. Made me loose up a litle.
Where am I? Yes the light. The exercises was quite difficult for me to do and took me long time. I could probably easier today go inte them but perhaps I need to stay focused on the physical level a bit longer. Perhaps I take in this exercises to the group in the future. Or do it myself. Sometimes I’m shore I will! I think I can do them but the training has taken another path thats all(maybe not all but something like this anyway). I’m also more focused on finding exercises that I think help me with my big problem (cold and tieredness) today and less conserned about to get this special effects, they com to me anyway in the right time.
Not shore about having problem sitting for a long time except for the cold. It works qutie alright for me to meditate for long times. Is alitle bit bored over the original cavity meditation for the moment but perhaps I can try to go deeper into it. You shall be able to do the breathing slower and slower ower the time. That is some kind of evolving that I might go into to not get bored.
That was perhaps alot unesseray stuf of my own pracise whithout any general interest.
How to get the self knowledge u are talking about.
Some methods. Some starting point. Any hint how to work on this by myself.
I like the sounds of that meditation working group you’re with it’s so good to have support…
>>One of the girls is wery open with showing some of her sexuality (extrovert) and that was good for me to<<
Well I think she likes you! 🙂
Seriously, about the self-knowledge thing there are many ways to go about it. I must admit I don't know enough about NLP to give you too many directions about that, but 'Core Dynamics' has been mentioned often on here and you could get that book for example. I'm sure there are others on here who could help you with that side of things but they seem to be away for now. Freeform for example knows alot about NLP but he is away in the states… as a matter of fact, if you search on this forum you may find alot of conversations about this from the past.
My own method is to use magic, herbs and sigils and so forth. To me this is very effective. If you want to know more about that I could recommend some books for it too. Or if you want we can carry on this conversation on email or something?
Whatever the method you choose is, the idea is to look at those areas of you that don't seem right in your personality and address them with something other than your normal everyday mind, so that you can change them, release them, whatever it is. It becomes the most normal thing in the world after a while, and then you start to have support from the personality where before something in you was fighting etc. j
Well thx then I know how to continue.
The subject is to free my own sexuality. Haw got something to read about here on the web with this Core dynamics. Will also start going a web coarse with the white tigresses sexual teaching as soon as I can afford. Probably next year. Mayby its good to meet some other sexy girls also and not staring me blind on the one that I’m in love with. Its time for some playfullness I belive. 🙂
Thx dude
looks like I will hang on here on the net site also.
>>The subject is to free my own sexuality.<>looks like I will hang on here on the net site also.<<
Look forward to more of talk on this and other subjects, j
I have been cultivating now for about a month and last night something terrible happened to me in my sleep. Now I’ve had night emissions/wet dreams before in the dream state and I know these to be just residual impurities of the mind that are surfacing: furthermore always after one of these night emissions I always notice the fluid to be clear prostatic fluid (in other words I didn’t lose my essence). BUT THIS WAS DIFFERENT. I’ve done some preliminary research on the phenomena of ‘sleep paralysis’ and I think this falls into that category.
I was in a state of a sort of ‘half-sleep’ I was aware of my body on my bed, I was aware of my bed, I was aware of my cat sleeping next to me on my bed. but I was still somehow asleep and there was this entity hovering over me. A female entity she was tan with short black hair and she was intensely masterbating. I mean vigorously masterbating over me like violently. she then whispered to me “I want you inside me” and at that moment I could feel I was about to ejaculate. I wanted to wake up but I couldn’t and I then had a violent night emission and felt very drained.
I was then able to wake up and got up and went to the bathroom in a very agitated state because I took off my boxers and looked at what I had ejaculated and to my despair it was a large amount of very white, pure, concentrated semen. This night emission was very different from anything I experience before and I know this entity to be a hungry ghost that attacked me in my sleep. I do not want her to come back and I really need some suggestions from you guys on some energy work in order to build a spiritual shield around my subtle body. please please please help. I need a POWERFUL technique to protect me NOW because i DO NOT want this ghost to make a habit of coming back to me every night to satisfy her hunger for lust.I have been cultivating now for about a month and last night something terrible happened to me in my sleep. Now I’ve had night emissions/wet dreams before in the dream state and I know these to be just residual impurities of the mind that are surfacing: furthermore always after one of these night emissions I always notice the fluid to be clear prostatic fluid (in other words I didn’t lose my essence). BUT THIS WAS DIFFERENT. I’ve done some preliminary research on the phenomena of ‘sleep paralysis’ and I think this falls into that category.
I was in a state of a sort of ‘half-sleep’ I was aware of my body on my bed, I was aware of my bed, I was aware of my cat sleeping next to me on my bed. but I was still somehow asleep and there was this entity hovering over me. A female entity she was tan with short black hair and she was intensely masterbating. I mean vigorously masterbating over me like violently. she then whispered to me “I want you inside me” and at that moment I could feel I was about to ejaculate. I wanted to wake up but I couldn’t and I then had a violent night emission and felt very drained.
I was then able to wake up and got up and went to the bathroom in a very agitated state because I took off my boxers and looked at what I had ejaculated and to my despair it was a large amount of very white, pure, concentrated semen. This night emission was very different from anything I experience before and I know this entity to be a hungry ghost that attacked me in my sleep. I do not want her to come back and I really need some suggestions from you guys on some energy work in order to build a spiritual shield around my subtle body. please please please help. I need a POWERFUL technique to protect me NOW because i DO NOT want this ghost to make a habit of coming back to me every night to satisfy her hunger for lust.
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